(March 17, 2015 at 9:14 am)Riketto Wrote:Pure bullshit. Please give me one example where the consciousness exist outside of a mind or a mind existing outside the brain.
Quote:And you know because of ??? You pulled out of your guru's ass.
Even those who study physical science can not understand the real role of this gland therefore it is natural that they only understand the physical side of this gland.
Quote:Then your analogy doesn't apply.Quote:Please explain why i shouldn't exist.Quote:Use your horse example a couple of post back. Thinking about a horse doesn't make it exist. So god thinking about you doesn't make you exist. Hence, a non-existing rock hitting a non-existing human does not harm the non-existing human.If you take from my previous example you should have take it in full not only part of it.
I said that as we create something in our mind also God create the universe in his mind but the difference is that God being God he make his creation real not abstract as our.
The 5 fundamental factors that make the universe are real.
Quote:Prove it. Where is my computer without microprocessors?Quote:There are a lot more important things that glands producing sperm so it is obvious that the bottom can not produce what is at the top of it.Quote:The top cannot exist without the bottom. Go ahead and build a computer without microprocessors to prove me wrong.Sorry mate but as proven by thousand of NDEs the consciousness doesn't need a body to be alive and well.
Wrong again brother.
Quote:LOL. Let me go find my container of pure consciousness that I put next to the tooth fairy and try this experiment. :dodge: You still didn't answer the question, how is your view falsifiable?Quote:You don't know what science is. Science requires a falsifiable hypothesis and theories. You don't even dare think about how your ideas can be wrong.You can try this experiment by yourself.
Pour a glass of cordial in a container of water and see if the cordial get diluted or not in his potency.
The same apply with the pure consciousness and his outer layer like the mind.
Surgen for Christ sake why don't you think twice before to write something.
You only hurt yourself in this way. hock:
Quote:If the public is the ultimate authority, I expect you to be christian. Christianity is the biggest religion. But you want your brand of bullshit to be immune to popular opinion.Quote:I do think you're deluded, and analogies are not proof that you're not deluded.Let us put my analogies to the public and see what they think about.
Quote:No wonder you don't like physical world, you don't even understand the simple stuff like different types of atoms. You cannot fathom the natural complexities and self-ordering that occurs from physical things. So you cling to bullshit notions of spirits in your antiquated understanding of the world.Quote:Here you fail again surgen.
The universe being made of space, air, light, water and matter obviously can not care about what is more conscious like a human being.
It would be like if an external layer of an onion has got more consciousness than an internal layer which is less diluted.Quote:Toss your antiquated alchemy bullshit away and take a chemistry class. Plus, your avoiding the question.Try with the cordial mate.
Even a demented idiot can see the difference.
Quote:No you didn't. What you said is a dodge. Now answer the question, what make you think the universe cares two shits about you?Quote:What makes you think the universe cares two shits about you?I already answer your question surgen.
Just look back in the previous post and you will see my answer.
Quote:I have a hard time believing you are actually a nurse. Your understanding of the human body is dismal.Quote:One more failing mate.
You never really study psychology nor you have been near people on death bed.
If you would you would know that no one has never been fully satisfied.
The materialist that got 1 always wish to have 2.
The intellectual that study this or that philosopher regret that he-she didn't yet study all the rest.
The religious person doesn't know whether he-she will go to paradise or hell.
The atheist will regret that at the end of his-her life nothing really is achieved so bugger all.
Now you tell me where full satisfaction is then materially or mentally speaking?Quote:Psychology is a hobby of mine. And I also talked to my grandma and grandpa on their death beds. My grandpa had regrets. My grandma longed for death because grandpa wasn't around anymore. Plus, you're avoiding the question again, surprise surprise. Did you go around and asked everyone on their deathbed if they had regrets?Wrong again surgen.
I have been working as a nurse for the last 25 years.
During this time i have been dealing with hundredS of sick people before they die so i think i have enough knowledge about the issue.
Quote:My glasses stopped being my glasses if a minute passes. That is insane. Oh look, a minute passed, and my glasses are still mine. Have you been stealing prescription medications from the supposed hospital you work at?Quote:Garbage.
The reality can not be in a place where everything is moving and changing.Quote:This assertion is pure garbage. Let me guess, you pulled it either out of your ass or your guru's ass. Which is it?Sorry sur but you are wrong again (again and again).
The reality doesn't change therefore can not be found in this physical universe where everything move and change.
What is real one minute is not real the next minute.
You get rid of the time and place and then you can find the real reality.