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Where is Jesus?
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RE: Where is Jesus?
Quote:There are a few mentions of some guy names Christus in a few Roman writings like Tacitus.


Maybe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

Quote:The surviving copies of Tacitus' works derive from two principal manuscripts, known as the Medicean manuscripts, which are held in the Laurentian Library, and written in Latin. It is the second Medicean manuscript which is the oldest surviving copy of the passage describing Christians. In this manuscript, the first 'i' of the Christianos is quite distinct in appearance from the second, looking somewhat smudged, and lacking the long tail of the second 'i'; additionally, there is a large gap between the first 'i' and the subsequent long s. Georg Andresen was one of the first to comment on the appearance of the first 'i' and subsequent gap, suggesting in 1902 that the text had been altered, and an 'e' had originally been in the text, rather than this 'i'[23].

In 1950, at Harald Fuchs request, Dr. Teresa Lodi, the director of the Laurentian Library, examined the features of this item of the manuscript; she concluded that there are still signs of an 'e' being erased, by removal of the upper and lower horizontal portions, and distortion of the remainder into an 'i'.[24] In 2008, Dr. Ida Giovanna Rao, the new head of the Laurentian Library's manuscript office, repeated Lodi's study, and concluded that it is likely that the 'i' is a correction of some earlier character (like an e), the change being made an extremely subtle one. Later the same year, it was discovered that under ultraviolet light, an 'e' is clearly visible in the space, meaning that the passage must originally have referred to chrestianos, a Latinized Greek word which could be interpreted as the good, after the Greek word χρηστός (chrestos), meaning 'good, useful'.[25] "I believe that in our passage of Tacitus the original reading Chrestianos is the true one" says Professor Robert Renehan, stating that it was "natural for a Roman to interpret the words [Christus and Christianus] as the similarly-sounding χρηστός".[26]


Suetonius, a contemporary of Tacitus, wrote of a riot led by one Chrestus in the reign of Claudius. Even though Claudius is far too late to have had anything to do with their god boy xtians instantly snapped this up as "evidence" of their godboy in Roman texts. Still, the ultraviolet test on the manuscript shows that Tacitus also wrote about "Chrestianos" (followers of Chrestus) rather than "Christianos" (followers of Christ) and this brings Tacitus into agreement with Suetonius and leaves xtians with their asses hanging out in the cold....again.
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Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 11, 2010 at 4:58 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Paul the Human - August 11, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Welsh cake - August 11, 2010 at 6:19 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 11, 2010 at 6:21 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2010 at 6:28 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 11, 2010 at 7:36 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by HeyItsZeus - August 24, 2010 at 9:20 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2010 at 8:09 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 11, 2010 at 11:21 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by padraic - August 11, 2010 at 11:54 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 11, 2010 at 8:14 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Shell B - August 11, 2010 at 8:51 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Jaysyn - August 11, 2010 at 9:32 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2010 at 8:17 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2010 at 11:55 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 12, 2010 at 11:23 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 12, 2010 at 1:12 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 12, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 12, 2010 at 5:30 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by padraic - August 12, 2010 at 7:37 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 12, 2010 at 7:22 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by annatar - August 12, 2010 at 12:24 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 12, 2010 at 12:47 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by downbeatplumb - August 12, 2010 at 2:31 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 12, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by RAD - August 12, 2010 at 10:06 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chasm - August 12, 2010 at 10:45 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 15, 2010 at 9:14 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chatpilot - August 15, 2010 at 1:28 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 15, 2010 at 7:38 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chatpilot - August 15, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 1:25 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by theVOID - August 15, 2010 at 9:48 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by everythingafter - September 1, 2010 at 10:15 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by KichigaiNeko - August 16, 2010 at 1:06 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2010 at 1:43 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 3:14 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2010 at 1:25 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 16, 2010 at 3:14 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 16, 2010 at 3:20 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 4:00 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 16, 2010 at 4:42 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by everythingafter - September 1, 2010 at 11:11 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 5:51 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Quest of knowledge - August 16, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by ib.me.ub - August 16, 2010 at 9:56 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chatpilot - August 16, 2010 at 12:37 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chatpilot - August 16, 2010 at 4:10 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by solja247 - August 16, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2010 at 7:54 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by theVOID - August 16, 2010 at 8:14 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 11:17 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by DiRNiS - August 17, 2010 at 12:12 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by KichigaiNeko - August 17, 2010 at 2:25 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by downbeatplumb - August 18, 2010 at 3:11 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Quest of knowledge - August 16, 2010 at 8:11 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by DiRNiS - August 16, 2010 at 8:16 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chatpilot - August 16, 2010 at 7:20 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by chatpilot - August 16, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 17, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Eilonnwy - August 17, 2010 at 10:22 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 18, 2010 at 10:58 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 10:52 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2010 at 4:22 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 18, 2010 at 3:04 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 19, 2010 at 12:24 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 19, 2010 at 11:29 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by DiRNiS - August 20, 2010 at 6:49 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2010 at 2:19 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 11:41 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 1:05 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 20, 2010 at 7:04 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by The Omnissiunt One - August 20, 2010 at 7:48 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 20, 2010 at 2:52 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 21, 2010 at 1:45 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2010 at 3:44 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 22, 2010 at 1:13 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by lrh9 - August 21, 2010 at 2:07 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 5:39 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by lrh9 - August 22, 2010 at 1:31 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Godschild - August 22, 2010 at 4:08 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by lrh9 - August 22, 2010 at 5:41 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2010 at 3:44 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 21, 2010 at 7:48 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Eilonnwy - August 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2010 at 1:23 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 23, 2010 at 12:30 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by The Omnissiunt One - August 23, 2010 at 8:11 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Captain Scarlet - August 23, 2010 at 4:01 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 23, 2010 at 3:51 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Quest of knowledge - August 24, 2010 at 3:00 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 24, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Quest of knowledge - August 27, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - August 30, 2010 at 11:30 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Paul the Human - August 30, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Quest of knowledge - September 1, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Entropist - September 1, 2010 at 9:50 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Quest of knowledge - September 1, 2010 at 10:47 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2010 at 5:58 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by RachelSkates - August 27, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 27, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by RachelSkates - August 27, 2010 at 6:15 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 27, 2010 at 7:54 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Padre5 - August 27, 2010 at 7:31 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 30, 2010 at 12:33 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - September 1, 2010 at 11:30 am
RE: Where is Jesus? - by tackattack - September 2, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: Where is Jesus? - by Minimalist - September 2, 2010 at 12:40 pm

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