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[Surgenator]

Pure bullshit. Please give me one example where the consciousness exist outside of a mind or a mind existing outside the brain.

I already said that the consciousness can live outside of a mind as proven by thousand of NDEs and i never said that the mind can live outside a brain so please stop asking the same question time and time again.

And I have repeated multiple times that NDEs are not reliable evidence since they are based on testimonies. Just like you don't take the thousands of UFO abductee's testimonies as reliable evidence, no one should take NDE's testimonies seriously. People experiencing NDE's have NOT PROVEN THAT THOSE EXPERIENCES OCCURRED OUTSIDE THE BRAIN.

And you know because of ??? You pulled out of your guru's ass.

No, actually i know because i rely on maths and science.
The glands on top of the spinal cord are delivering the thinking and the consciousness so it is obvious that they are a lot more important and sophisticated than glands delivering sperm.

Your ASSERTING that the glands do "are delivering the thinking and the consciousness" NOT PROVING IT. Learn the difference.

Point out the irony/hypocrisy of "i know because i rely on maths and science" to your earlier post "even those who study physical science can not understand the real role." If you want to claim to be some genius that figured out something that all the other people who study it can't, by all means prove it to them. Until then, you're full of shit.

Then your analogy doesn't apply.

It is obvious that according to an atheist anything that relate to God doesn't apply
Being there done that sur.
So carry on.

Wow, your thick. If your analogy is about how imaginary things don't actually exist, but god's imaginary things do. Then the analogy doesn't work.

Prove it. Where is my computer without microprocessors?

Thousand of NDEs are prove of it.
Even the ex atheist confirm that.

All the thousand testimonies doesn't prove anything about top - down design (see UFO explanation above). I want my computer without microprocessors! What is taking so long to produce it?

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You can try this experiment by yourself.
Pour a glass of cordial in a container of water and see if the cordial get diluted or not in his potency.
The same apply with the pure consciousness and his outer layer like the mind.
Surgen for Christ sake why don't you think twice before to write something.
You only hurt yourself in this way. hock:

Let me go find my container of pure consciousness that I put next to the tooth fairy and try this experiment. :dodge: You still didn't answer the question, how is your view falsifiable?

You do this experiment every single day.
Even now that you are reading this post your mind try to find the correct answer to reply to my writing.
Your mind dig from your subconscious mind which is a lot more powerful than the outer mind itself.
You see surgen.
The more you try to talk bullshit and the more you sink in the quick sands.

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Your not answering the question. How is your view falsifiable? What experiment can I do where outcome X results that your view is wrong?

Let us put my analogies to the public and see what they think about.

If the public is the ultimate authority, I expect you to be christian. Christianity is the biggest religion. But you want your brand of bullshit to be immune to popular opinion.

These days most of the Christians are no longer fanatical like they used to be so it is very likely that they will express their judgement without so much bias.

So Islam is the correct religion because it is the second biggest and is "fanatical". So why aren't you a muslim?

No wonder you don't like physical world, you don't even understand the simple stuff like different types of atoms. You cannot fathom the natural complexities and self-ordering that occurs from physical things. So you cling to bullshit notions of spirits in your antiquated understanding of the world.

Atoms will soon loose their importance.
In the near future people will care more about the smaller particles that compose the life in this universe like the microvita.
http://microvita.org/

Pure unsupported, bathe-in-ignorance bullshit. This just shows how ignorant you are on what the physical world is and how it works.

No you didn't. What you said is a dodge. Now answer the question, what make you think the universe cares two shits about you?

Again you are acting like a pupil with hearing and in this case with visual problems.
Sorry pal, if you want go back few pages and look at my answer.
I am not going to waste my time repeating the same thing time and time again.

You know your answer is crap that is the reason you don't want to talk about it. You don't have a good reason for thinking the universe cares is your satisfied. You just want it to. So you jumped into a ridiculous religion so you can ignore reality.

Sorry sur but you are wrong again (again and again).
The reality doesn't change therefore can not be found in this physical universe where everything move and change.
What is real one minute is not real the next minute.
You get rid of the time and place and then you can find the real reality.

My glasses stopped being my glasses if a minute passes. That is insane. Oh look, a minute passed, and my glasses are still mine. Have you been stealing prescription medications from the supposed hospital you work at?

If the reality is in this universe than these guys would feel a lot of pain but they don't.
Now brother surgen do one thing.
Drink a relaxing chamomile tea.
Relax on your best cough and let your subconscious try to understand why this is possible.
And then let me know.

Your making less sense than previously. I didn't think it was possible, but you have have found a new low. Your statement has nothing to do with my previous response. Did your eyes glaze over as you stopped thinking and went with an arrogant statement? Typical pigeon tactic.