(March 18, 2015 at 2:25 pm)GriffinHunter Wrote: That force may or may not be personal, and perhaps it isn't even a mind. But I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of there being absolutely no First Cause at all...I think that's natural. Our lives and the events within are measured by beginnings and endings. We have a problem grasping even very large or very small values, to say nothing of the concept of infinity. We also have a tough time grasping the concept of something appearing out of nothing, which is one of the issues that believers and non-believers grapple with. After all, no matter which first cause we posit, we are left to wonder what caused that cause? Saying that god was always there is just an attempt to side-step the issue, IMO. And it certainly doesn't make the concept of eternity any more comprehensible.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
