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A Si Fi watchmaker.
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker.
(March 19, 2015 at 8:33 am)One Above All Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 8:25 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, si fi is just that, that is why it is called FICTION. Science in reality allows for imagining the possibilities but it does not gap fill with mere fiction.

It doesn't? Einstein filled his inability to accept observations of the universe's expansion with a fictional constant. The constant is still being tossed around to this day.

(March 19, 2015 at 8:25 am)Brian37 Wrote: If you are stupidly going to think that everything works by default just because you uttered it, then find a god or a church and go back. Science works off METHOD not making shit up.

Sad hypocrite then. I knew it.
Here you are, arguing about how things are, completely convinced you're right because it's you who made the argument, when you're demonstrably wrong about a lot of things, and other things (like the one below) are just strawmen.

(March 19, 2015 at 8:25 am)Brian37 Wrote: There is a HUGE difference between when science "imagines" and how laypersons "imagine" and the difference is testing and falsification and peer review. Si fi does not count as science that is why it is called FICTION.

Sci-fi is a mixture of science and fiction. It takes a concept or idea or fact from science and pushes it to the brink.
Are X-Men possible? No. Are mutations possible? Yes.
Is space travel possible? Yes. Is controlling a black hole in order to do it possible? Probably not.
Are aliens possible? Yes. Do they look like little grey men? Probably not.

Ok then, "all this" is a result of a unicorn with a human head, metal horn, and rubber legs, who has a cape with "U" on it's chest, which works for a quantum billions of Bill Gates and we are mere waves on this motherboard run by those Gates and unicorns. WHAT you say? Gibberish? But I thought you said fiction is part of science?

QM does postulate an absurd amount of "Possibilities" but again, the ability to utter something does not make it true by default. Books of myth are fiction too, we call them holy books because people treat them as fact. I would say talking donkeys are science fiction because for them to literally be true, they would defy science.

Holy books are science fiction too. Otherwise their super heros would be true by proxy of utterance. I see no difference between "all powerful" super hero, and a guy with a cape who is limited in power but has powers that defy science. NO difference, fiction is fiction, religious or si fi.

If you are treating Men In Black or Star Trek as a science classroom beyond metaphor, you are not "imagining" any better than someone with a god claim.

Don't gap fill does not mean "never imagine", there are still REAL ways to do that and crappy ways to "imagine". Go back and watch that video and read that link.
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A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by JuliaL - March 18, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 7:43 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 6:57 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 20, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 20, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 8:56 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 20, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 20, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 20, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 12:41 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 3:05 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 6:06 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by LastPoet - March 21, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 22, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by rexbeccarox - March 22, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2015 at 4:12 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by rexbeccarox - March 22, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 22, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by LastPoet - March 22, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 22, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 22, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 22, 2015 at 10:08 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by rexbeccarox - March 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 22, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 22, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 22, 2015 at 11:57 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Foxaèr - March 23, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by rexbeccarox - March 23, 2015 at 12:48 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Foxaèr - March 23, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by rexbeccarox - March 23, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 23, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 23, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 23, 2015 at 12:31 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Foxaèr - March 23, 2015 at 12:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 23, 2015 at 2:00 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Foxaèr - March 23, 2015 at 2:07 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 23, 2015 at 6:31 am



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