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Sins
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RE: Sins
(March 19, 2015 at 3:11 pm)abaris Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 3:03 pm)Drich Wrote: Going to Hell is a 'choice' as well, yet like being gay holds no appeal to me.

So dodging and hiding behind woo again.

Smashing my head against the wall, though possible, isn't a choice. It's a possibility. A choice is between two or more equally appealing options. And turning gay - at least for a straight man or woman - isn't even a possibility. No hard feelings in the lower regions, if you get my drift.

You seemed to be confused between a desirable choice and an undesireable choice. Not all the choices you will be faced with in life will have the prepackaged outcome you find desirable. matter of fact that vast majority of choices i have to make day to day are not desirable. that is what being a man is. (straight or Gay) Making tough and undesirable choice and living with the consenquences whether you like them or not. Make the right choice enough times and you might be endanger of developing integrity. however if you run from tough choices and always do what is easy or 'natural.' You will live a life that will never be mistaken for one with intergrity in it. (Again this applies to the straight man or the gay man.)

(March 19, 2015 at 3:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm)Drich Wrote: Being attracted to someone sexually means think of that person with you in a sexual manner.. which again qualifies as what you have identified as 'thought crime.'

Which is why I brought A-sexuality into this conversation. If one is not attracted to the oppsite sex, and again is not thinking of the same sex in a sexual way, they are a-sexual and not in any type of sin concerning sex.

However if one is attracted to the same sex in a sexual manner (by thought or deed) they can be identified as being homosexual or gay, and subsequently guilty of a sexual sin. either by thought or deed.

So to say a gay man is guilty of sexual sin just like a heterosexual man outside the confines of a santified marriage. refers to both men's thoughts or deeds concerning sex out side of a santified marriage. Which again is the only biblical pretext in which sex is not considered a sin.

A simple 'yes' would've sufficed.

So even certain thoughts are sinful. What a wonderfully totallitarian world you want to live in Drich. But leave us out of it.

Again FF look at the whole law not just the rule of law. The whole law allows for freedom from the rule of law as a meant to righteousness via attonement.

Meaning we no longer need to strictly follow the law to be found righteous before God through Christ's attonement.

You and you need to be found 'moral' in the sight of your peers live in more of a totallitarian soceity than I do.

(March 19, 2015 at 3:20 pm)robvalue Wrote: "Homosexuality is a sin"

Translation:

"They are different from me and it scares me"

i have gay family members and have absolutly no issue with them in any form or fashion. even if I refuse to get in the hot tub with them..Undecided
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Sins - by Nope - March 18, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Sins - by dyresand - March 18, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 18, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 18, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 18, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 4:05 am
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 19, 2015 at 5:25 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 18, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Sins - by h4ym4n - March 19, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Sins - by h4ym4n - March 19, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 18, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 18, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 18, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 18, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm
RE: Sins - by Jesusislord - March 18, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 18, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 18, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 18, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 19, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 20, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 20, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Sins - by Minimalist - March 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 18, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Sins - by Silver - March 18, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Sins - by Spooky - March 18, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 18, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Sins - by vorlon13 - March 18, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Sins - by AFTT47 - March 18, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: Sins - by Ravenshire - March 18, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 18, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Sins - by Homeless Nutter - March 18, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 5:28 am
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 7:33 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 19, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 19, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 19, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 9:14 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Sins - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 19, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 19, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Sins - by Tonus - March 19, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Sins - by vorlon13 - March 19, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 19, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Sins - by Spooky - March 19, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Sins - by jesus_wept - March 19, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Sins - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 3:51 pm
RE: Sins - by Spooky - March 19, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 19, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 2:02 am
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 5:00 am
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 20, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 6:56 am
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Sins - by Ravenshire - March 20, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 20, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 20, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 3:13 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 20, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Sins - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Sins - by Norman Humann - March 20, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Sins - by Nope - March 20, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 20, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Sins - by Cyberman - March 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Sins - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Sins - by daver49 - March 22, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Sins - by abaris - March 22, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Sins - by Joods - March 22, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Sins - by Ravenshire - March 22, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Sins - by Drich - March 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Sins - by wiploc - March 22, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Sins - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 22, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Sins - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Sins - by Chad32 - March 22, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: Sins - by Regina - March 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Sins - by FatAndFaithless - March 23, 2015 at 8:09 pm

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