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A Si Fi watchmaker.
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker.
(March 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:
(March 19, 2015 at 3:39 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am not purging a fucking thing, damn you sound like the Church when Galileo told the truth that the earth revolved around the sun. Is your wishful thinking more important than reality.

Now again for the umpteenth time, there is nothing wrong with "mental masturbation" but there is a way science goes about it and the stupid way laypersons go about it.

If you want to dwell in the unimaginative sphere of fantasy you can, but you still have nothing until scientific method and peer review act on it. Make any claim you want, that is a government issue and a human rights issue, go for it. But don't expect anyone, especially not scientists to buy anything you say just because you uttered it.

What wishful thinking? If I decide to indulge in fantasy, it is for escapism - not to present said fantasy as a scientific candidate for reality. Who the hell does that?

If I did try to pass fantasy off as reality - especially in a scientific arena - and somebody buys it, shame on them! If enough people did it and managed to snow enough other people, it would be a problem but I sure don't see that that has happened. How many people do you know think time travel is possible because Seven of Nine caused a temporal displacement with a resonant, inverse tetryon burst from the main deflector dish?

If you are doing it for entertainment, have fun. But if you are taking that entertainment and thinking that setting will magically make something go from your thoughts to reality, it does not work like that. I like the NFL, but watching the sport never landed anyone on the moon.

EVERYONE has their likes, me included. You keep missing my point. You don't simply make a claim. And those scientists like I said, are stuck on paper and computers right now, but they are not simply talking about it.

There still is a way to brainstorm, and a way not to.

Oh and as far as time travel, I really don't think you understand what "theoretical"(sounds good(plausible on paper), (and practical reality, in size and resources)

And the MACRO physics (us) that we have to make work with the QM world. If they ever get it to work, THEY are still making the attempt in A LAB. But the problems they are having with that is squaring the QM world with our large world. It is one thing to move a proton. It is quite another to move a entire body or copy trillions of particles in the exact order and re assemble them in the exact order at the exact same spin and momentum and speed. Trillions of particles all at the same time. Some physicists, think at best we can only use that for communication at the proton level.

To move an entire body, it would be like trying to shoot billions if not hundreds of billions of billiard balls all at the same time. So even if it is possible mathematically, there still may be a physical limitation in reality. But again, if we really do get to that point, if ever, you don't simply talk about it.

I think you fall for the "just do it" attitude in the same way some fall for the seeming abundance of life. Yes there is lots of life, but what we see now is only 1% of what has been in evolution. You can look at science inventions the same way. For every success, which even then, takes lots of failure, most attempts go nowhere. Same with any product you buy at the store. For everyone you see on the shelf, there are more that compete that do not make it to the shelf.

It is the same with other issues like people wanting to get rich, or act or play music or sports. Yes you can try, but there is a difference between what you want, and likelihood. Science is no different. When you only focus on the success, that is the same selection bias and sample rate failure. It is not saying do nothing. It is saying that if you want to try, sure, try, but success at that level takes far more failure. Any successful person can tell you if you don't fail that means you have not tried. And for every successful person, there are tons more that will not get to that level.

And again, while science has produced tons of useful things, that is an illusion, and to know that, all you have to do is look at all the records at the patent office of things that never became useful. I am not saying that to anyone to burst their bubble, but to be realistic.
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A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by JuliaL - March 18, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 7:43 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 6:57 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 20, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 20, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 19, 2015 at 8:56 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 20, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 20, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 20, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 12:41 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 3:05 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 6:06 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by LastPoet - March 21, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:22 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:43 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 21, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 5:03 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:41 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 21, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 6:58 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 21, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 21, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 21, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 22, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2015 at 2:22 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 4:07 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 22, 2015 at 9:56 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by rexbeccarox - March 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 22, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 23, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by One Above All - March 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 23, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Aoi Magi - March 23, 2015 at 12:31 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Foxaèr - March 23, 2015 at 12:33 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 23, 2015 at 2:00 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Foxaèr - March 23, 2015 at 2:07 am
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