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Square-circles Vs. God
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
(March 19, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What...what is happening in this thread?
Mysticism. Confusedpooky:



(March 20, 2015 at 12:23 am)daver49 Wrote: Being is the realization that you don't "have a life" ( i.e a life that "belongs" to you and others have lives that belong to them).
'Being' is the 'act of having existence'. From the perspective of a living subject, it is 'having a life'. You can't simply redefine words to mean the opposite of what they actually mean just to support your position. That's called 'disingenuity'.
Quote:Life isn't an object, life is the subject you are.
...and then you contradict yourself in the very next sentence.
Quote:It also is the realization that who you "think" you are is not who you really are.
Only if you're delusional. That said, there's a theory that everyone's self-realisation is slightly skewed.
Quote:Who you "think" you are is a collection of thoughts and their associated feelings (body reactions identified as physical sensations). The next time you have a feeling like anger or happiness, it will probably be associated with thoughts like "I am angry because.." or "I am happy because..." Who is observing these thoughts and these feelings?
'You' are.
Quote:Which "me" is real: the thoughts and feelings I think I am or that who is aware of the thoughts and feelings being present?
There's only one of you. In fact, if there's more than one personality in your head, it's classified as a mental disorder. The ability to self-analyse and/or compartmentalise/distance parts of your thinking in order to aid that process is not indcative of multiple personalities.
Quote:So, in a weird-crazy way, to interact with you is to really be interacting with myself because we are one life manifesting itself as separate and temporary forms of that one life energy.
And where did this jump come from? Please show your working. Where's the evidence to suggest this?
Quote:Just observe your thoughts and feelings for a while and I think you will realize you are more than your thoughts
Indeed. I am a sum of my thoughts, actions and experiences.
Quote: and that Descartes only had part of the picture when he said "Ego cogito, ergo sum." This isn't to say thoughts are not important or have no value, just that they are not who you are or who other people are.
Not solely but I think that's not what you mean and you're trying to support a dualist position.
Quote:One wonderful by-product is that we have the end of judgement (final judgement?) because judgement is a product of thoughts, concepts and feelings. All is well.
Is the whole point of your post that we shouldn't think and that 'freedom from judging' is somehow a payoff for that?! How do you even tie your shoelaces...

BTW I think you missed Donne's point.
Sum ergo sum
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Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 6, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Chad32 - March 6, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 7, 2015 at 4:32 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 6, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Chad32 - March 6, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 6, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by downbeatplumb - March 7, 2015 at 5:07 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 7, 2015 at 5:24 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Silver - March 7, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by professor - March 7, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Chad32 - March 7, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 7, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 7, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 11, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 12, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ravenshire - March 11, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 12, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 12, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 13, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by wiploc - March 11, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by dyresand - March 11, 2015 at 11:47 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Minimalist - March 11, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Alex K - March 12, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 12, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Angrboda - March 12, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Pizza - March 12, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Whateverist - March 17, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 12, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 13, 2015 at 4:41 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 17, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Mudhammam - March 17, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 17, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 18, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 17, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Whateverist - March 17, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 17, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 18, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ignorant - March 18, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 18, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 18, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 5:45 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 19, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 19, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 19, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Pizza - March 19, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 20, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Whateverist - March 20, 2015 at 8:07 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 4:35 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 20, 2015 at 8:10 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 20, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 20, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 23, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Mudhammam - March 23, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 23, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 23, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 23, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 20, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 5:37 pm

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