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A Si Fi watchmaker.
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker.
(March 20, 2015 at 6:12 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(March 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Do you know why you don't let si fi go either? Homapathy, perpetual motion machines, Scientology, De Pak Chumphead. Lots of cons are because someone wants it to be true and mixes real words of science into their claptrap.

Entertainment is still entertainment. Si fi is really no different than the Cat In the Hat and Charlotte's Web, Animal Farm and 1984. All of those have questions about morality in them. Si fi isn't the only fiction that makes suggestions about axioms or morality.

I have NO problem finding morals in any work of fiction, si fi or otherwise. But none of them constitute science. Just treat them for what they are, entertainment.

Okay, so what your confusing is new age spiritual woo with science fiction. Here is the difference, nobody says works of science fiction are true hence the fiction part of the name, where as everything you mentioned above has a dedicated following of people that purport it too be true. Let me clarify, any science fiction writer will tell you without batting an eye that their works are fictional, excepting Ron Hubbard. Now try getting Deepak Chopra to admit his routine is fiction.

Stop trying to separate one type of fiction from another.

It is still stuck on pretty. If you are going to say si fi fiction is better than any other I think that is bullshit. It still amounts to a case of the warm fuzzies. I get that you like it, but what it postulates has no special value other than reflecting the same good vs evil, empathy vs cruelty morality you find elsewhere.

If a si fi fan admits it is just that, fine. But by virtue that you feel to separate it from other fiction says to me you are ignoring that others do twist it. I am not talking about you. I am talking about humans. The fact that L Ron Hubbard started a religion should say to you that even Star Trek and Star Wars can have fans too stupid to leave it as fantasy. That is how ALL religions are started.
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A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by JuliaL - March 18, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 7:43 am
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 8:49 am
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 6:57 am
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 9:12 am
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Lemonvariable72 - March 20, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 20, 2015 at 10:42 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Ravenshire - March 21, 2015 at 12:33 am
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 21, 2015 at 12:12 pm
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