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[Little Rik]

You never know son.
One day they may prove you correct and the thousand of people who had an NDE wrong.
They may even give you a Nobel prize for your scientific knowledge.
In the meantime i rely on what make more sense regardless of the number of witnesses.

You're the one who has the burden of proof not me. You have to show that what these people are experiencing is something outside of their brains. I don't have to do anything to justify my lack of belief.

You really collapsed down in the mental pit sur.
You still don't know what is the difference between physical and abstract and than you pretend that through your physical senses and perception you can understand what is abstract like the consciousness.
Get real sur.

No, i don't.
I believe in universal laws in which people who live in a certain planet can not interfere in the life and place of other people from different planet.

But all those testimonials by UFO abductees. They even have pictures and video. But since it doesn't fit into your worldview, you refuse to accept it. Typical pigeon tactic.

I do believe in NDEs because they make sense and i don't believe in UFO abductees because they don't make sense.
Clear and simple so you can keep your pigeons for yourself.

Your astounded that scientist would like to know how things work? You must really consider the scientist as brainless idiots. Did you consider that it might be the other way around?

Pure intellectual extravaganza to say more bullshit.

That statement applies to all your post. I'm gonna steal it, and apply it when I deem appropriate.

Did you know that by imitate somebody like a parrot you may become a parrot in the next life?

So tell me.
With how many ex-atheists that did had an NDE did you disagree?

All who claim NDE's are evidence of something outside the brain. Them being an ex-atheist doesn't make a difference.

So you got the evidence that the NDEs are all bullshit?
Good sur, let us see your evidence.

I guess it would be like a car without an engine but again even if the microprocessor would be inside your computer the computer wouldn't be able to do anything UNTIL you would activate the computer and decide to make it deliver the goods.

So a computer without microprocessors is just a pile of crap until you put the microprocessors in there. Congratulations, you just disproved your top-to-bottom creation. Take some cake, enjoy some wine, you just moved one step closer to a reasoning human being.

Show me that i disprove what i previously said so we can go ahead.
It seems that is typical of so many of you to allege something about my so called crap but when i ask you to show me where i suppose to have fail nothing is shown.
This is your failing not mine.

Analogies are used all the time by scientists to prove whether something will work or not.

Scientist only use analogies to explain stuff to laymen. They don't use them when they prove something to there fellow scientist.

Actually i didn't say that they are used to ........prove something to there (their) fellow scientist....as you say.
You say that not me.
Analogies are all about comparison so in order to invent or improve something the scientists use to make comparisons with what is already invented.
Buy why should i waste my time explaining this to someone who is stuck in the corral of dogma?

All the medication that people use these days have been experimented on rats.

You know rats are not analogies. They are mammals that have similar biology and biochemistry as humans. That is why drugs are first tested on them before they move to HUMAN TRIALS.

You are really silly sur.
Analogies or comparisons in the sense that what is ok for rats may be ok for humans.
Forget about your chamomile sur.
Much better a wake up alarm at this stage.

All the technologies that we got these days come after experiments with what was previously known so without analogies we still would live in caves.

Previous experiments are not analogies. I'm beginning to think you don't know what the word analogy means.

That is funny sur.
Analogies are comparisons and comparisons meaning is to compare what you want to create with what is already created in order to get some help or to avoid mistakes.

Sorry, but the clerics of Islam devoted their lives to intuitional science and came to their understand of reality. Just because they wrote down what they learned from the intuitional science and spread their knowledge to others doesn't make it less true. So your objection of calling them a religion is ill founded since they are like you, fellow intuitional science practitioners.

Wrong again sur.
What the followers of Mohammed were doing in the past is totally different from what the cleric are doing these days.
The love has turned into hate.
The spirituality has turned into religious dogmas.
At this stage nobody really knows what the first followers of Mohammed were doing.
Not me not you so forget talking about intuitional science.
All we know is that the first followers were peaceful people.

Even fundamental part are made of something sur but that is something that you will understand at a later stage.

You really need to check the dictionary more often. Look up the word "fundamental."

It may be true that the dictionary say one thing and i do believe in something else.
To me the fundamental factors are space, air, light, water and matter and they are all a crudification or a metamorphosis of God thoughts into something less pure so they are all made of something.

You show me that you ever refute and dismiss any of my thoughts and i will cover you in pure gold.

Your NDE's testimonies with UFO testimonies. Burden of proof shifts. The top to bottom design BS. These are just from this post alone. Where is my gold?

Garbage sur.
First of all you got to specify in which way you expect a burden of proof.
Do you want something abstract to turn into something physical so you can understand how the system works and the proofs or you want to experience in a conscious way?
Make up your mind sur but in the meantime i suggest you to learn the difference between abstract and physical.

You can experiment yourself sur.
Just try to insert a knife in your flesh to see whether you feel pain or not.

We already had this discussion. I'm not going to physically hurt myself. Let me shot you in your foot. I won't say which foot since it doesn't matter because you believe pain is only in the brain.

I already been there and see that so i really don't need to do any experiment to know how the system works.
It is for you surgen in order to understand how the system works.

Oh that is interesting.
So these guys before to insert knives into their flesh kill all their nerve cells.
Thanks for telling me that mate.
Now i go to see these guys to reprimanding them.
I may even give them a good smack even if i know that they will not feel any pain.

No dumbass. You can kill the nerve endings to a specific region from consistent injury to it. Your brain will also ignore pain receptor messages if they are constantly on.

Wait, wait wait son.
It is YOU that were talking about killing the nerve cells not me.