(March 21, 2015 at 3:37 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:(March 21, 2015 at 3:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote: But that is not the only place people find inspiration nor is it the only place people make claims or get ideas from.
Nobody claimed otherwise.
(March 21, 2015 at 3:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote: It still does not get a pass.
This is where you get weird. It's fine to say a claim someone makes is subject to proof - regardless of what may have sourced or inspired the claim. But you're attacking the source because somebody used it in a way it was not intended. That's not a fault of the source but of the one who used it inappropriately. Don't blame the car for killing someone when the driver was drunk.
Yes if you are not attacking a claim or if the person making that claim doesn't want you attacking it, they have no business in a lab.
It is the fault of the source if that source is asking for a pass. I see the same reaction with theists as well. They make a claim and by proxy of depiction because it was depicted that means it is true.
No place you get your ideas from or a mere depiction makes it true. Si Fi lovers want special treatment just like those in religion claim to be inventors because of depictions in their books.
Having the tires kicked over and over and over is the only thing that gets something to the point of being usable. Mere depictions and merely being inspired does not mean it is true by default.
Some QM scientists are confident we can eventually bend space and time to move through space and or time. But the fact si fi shows are depicting those things now does not mean we are there yet. Thus the word "eventually".
And at the same time these same top guys can point to the si fi shows or movies and point to lots of other things in them as well that they would clearly tell you will never happen. That is not what QM means by infinite possibilities.
Will happen and has happened are still not given a pass. You still have to do the work to the point where it does happen. And that work does not happen on a movie set.
And again, Si Fi is still not the only place people get their ideas from.
Make any depiction you want, but dont pretend Si fi is the only fiction people make claims in or the only source of inspiration.
Not even Si fi fans get to say "just depict it". "Make it so" means do the work. So until you get there you still are not there.
