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A Si Fi watchmaker.
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker.
(March 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(March 21, 2015 at 6:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not claiming anyone is a prophet but lots of si fi fans claim Roddenberry was a prophet, not tell me how a non scientist who merely created a tv show had scientific predictive abilities? He didn't invent anything and si fi fans like to claim he did. That to me is no different than claiming the bible or Koran have predictive powers.

If you point out someone who thinks Roddenberry was a prophet I'll show you a nut job. The reason that sometimes star trek seems predictive is because gene Roddenberry wanted to show us a world where everyone's right were respected, everyone had a opportunity to be educated and no body went hungry.
That is a world that the better among us work towards everyday, so yes sometimes it appears to coincide with star trek.

Ok, so you agree he was not a prophet, awesome, then you can understand why science fiction is not a lab. And if you accept the bible and Koran as fiction, and non of them have predictive powers, then you should not be claiming science fiction is any better than any other type of fiction.

But you obviously don't spend that much time arguing si fi on the net because I have run into people in the past who do treat Roddenberry as an inventor and prophet.

Go find a Star Trek fan website and join. I bet if you made the same argument to them there as i have made to you now, someone will jump all over your ass. Maybe not everyone, but you are likely to find a nut or few claiming he is some sort of patent holder without using the word "patent".
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A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 4:38 pm
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RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 18, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by JuliaL - March 18, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Anomalocaris - March 18, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by AFTT47 - March 19, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: A Si Fi watchmaker. - by Brian37 - March 19, 2015 at 7:43 am
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