Tentatively Christian; looking for a reasonable discussion

[Neo-Scholastic]

Most things that we observe existing for a time are only abstractions for organizations of other things (the Earth, a human body, a nation, etc.). The time of birth and death we assign to these abstractions depends on when certain properties of the abstraction begin to exist and cease to exist.

Sensible bodies are not themselves abstractions; but rather, the real things having an independent existence from which we abstract the qualities that allow them to be conceived in the the intellect. It is my position that even in the absence of human perception the universe is filled with real objects that have distinct qualities and essential natures.