(March 23, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Surgenator Wrote:Quote:If you really think so you should show me something that i choose that doesn't make sense.It "doesn't make sense" because it doesn't agree with your conclusion. That is where your dishonest lies.
Instead of answering my question you keep on coming up with the same rosary of avoiding to answer the question.
Show me instead where any of mine writing doesn't agree with my conclusion.
Quote:As stated above, your 'good' is what agrees with you, and your 'bad' is what doesn't agree with you; even though, the 'evidence' is of the same flavor, testimonials. Dishonesty at its finest.
As stated above.
No examples given even in this case.
Quote:The reason why i say........I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE REAL instead of saying THEY ARE REAL is because materialistic people pretend physical evidence about something that is not physical.
Quote:You believe them to be real because YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND how the physical world can explain it. It is the definition of ignorance. Your lack of understanding is not evidence for something else.
Garbage.
Nothing to do with understanding or not.
The physical world according to yoga is a metamorphosis of something more complex and big so it is natural that the small which has been created by the big can not possibly understand the big.
It would be like your baby trying to understand what goes on in your mind.
Quote:Adding another claim to explain hide your ignorance is not an explanation. Where is your evidence that the physical world cannot explain non-physical objects? Did you consider the non-physical objects are just an abstraction of the physical objects, i.e. the physical objects create the abstract objects? No? ... But you think abstract objects can cause physical objects, why?
Just explained above.
Quote:Is this your new strategy, claim I change the argument without realizing that I'm trying to maintain the original argument. Please, try to follow.
A perfect excuse for not answering my questions.

Quote:The dictionary is your friend. You should use it more often.
Let us take the word cancer that in Latin means crab.
According to some dictionaries it was given this name to this disease because as the dictionary say.................. these words refer to a crab, most likely applied to the disease because the finger-like spreading projections from a cancer called to mind the shape of a crab...............
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasic...-is-cancer
Sarkar instead said that the reason why they gave the name crab or cancer to this disease is because in the old times when somebody had a terminal cancer they would feel similar pain as when a crab bait and eat your flesh considering that in the old time they did not have powerful painkillers as the morphine.
You see surgen how the explanation can be so different one another.
I rather believe Sarkar rather than a dictionary.
Quote:Imitation comparisons and improvement are all part and parcel of coming up with something better.
Quote:And that doesn't make them analogies but models, pigeon.
You start with analogies and comparison and what follow can be improvement so who is the pigeon?

Quote:You allege that i did say that they were not practicing intuitional practices.
I never said that.
I said to you.........how do you know that they were practicing intuitional science?
They may they may not.
We do not know that is why i suggest you to stop speculating whether they did or did not.
Quote:Congratulations, you started to understand one more thing, "you cannot claim something happen because something else didn't happen." Now lets try to apply this concept to your bullshitalogy. If you don't know how the physical world can do something, that doesn't mean a spiritual world is needed. If someone says they don't fell pain when they stick sharp objects in their mouths, that doesn't mean consciousness is outside the brain. etc...
I already answer well above.
The physical world is like your baby compared to you.
It can not possibly understand what's on in your mind.
Metamorphosis can happen for achieving more consciousness or loose the consciousness that you already got.
In this case the universe is a metamorphosis in which (according to yoga) God loose his supreme consciousness into something less and less conscious like space, air, light, water and matter in which God consciousness is in a latent or dormant stage.
Quote:Aren't you sick to recite the same rosary about the burden of proof and answer the question instead.
Quote:Yes, I'm almost sick of always addressing your lack of understanding basic logic.
Since when you address anything at all?
All you do is not answering the question or coming up with your usual rosary about the burden of proof.



Quote:Your false statement, "According to the laws of this universe if you insert a knife into your flesh you are bound to feel pain."
It is false because it doesn't account for the possibility of dead nerve endings or the people are just ignoring the pain. You'll be a moron to claim you cannot kill nerve endings, but I wouldn't be surprise if you do. You'll be a moron to claim people cannot ignore pain because I ignored headaches, knee scrapes, back aches, etc... So your argument is invalid because it ignores there obvious explanations.
So you reckon that all these guys who insert knives into their flesh had dead nerves.
Interesting sur how so many people in that festival had the same symptoms.
So how do explain that few days before this festival their nerves were fully alive?
