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Moral Compass
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RE: Moral Compass
(April 2, 2015 at 6:50 pm)Lakul Wrote: TL;DR
 
And so, I VERY much want to have a conversation with my parents to get across this simple point:

Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you're told.
Religion is doing what you're told, regardless of what is right.

I would very much appreciate some sources covering objective/subjective morality and why god-given 'moral compasses' are disturbing and bullnyerk.  Big Grin

Ah yes, the moral argument. 

Almost every debate I've ever been in with a theist, no matter how it starts, always seems to degrade into, "Well, where do you get your morality?". Usually this comes after every one of their previous arguments have been refuted.

I would suggest searching Youtube for Matt Dillahunty's talk called, "The Superiority of Secular Morality". There are a couple of versions of the talk. 


Matt actually argues for an objective morality of sorts, based the objective reality that we all live in the same physical universe, inhabiting (more or less) the same bodies. 

I think he makes a pretty strong argument.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Moral Compass - by Lakul - April 2, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Cato - April 2, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Norman Humann - April 2, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Simon Moon - April 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Polaris - April 5, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by AFTT47 - April 2, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Lakul - April 2, 2015 at 8:24 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Kitty Galore - April 2, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Minimalist - April 2, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Exian - April 2, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Regina - April 2, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Joods - April 2, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 1:23 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 3, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: Moral Compass - by downbeatplumb - April 3, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 4, 2015 at 7:05 am
RE: Moral Compass - by downbeatplumb - April 4, 2015 at 7:12 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 4, 2015 at 7:48 am
RE: Moral Compass - by downbeatplumb - April 5, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 5, 2015 at 8:28 am
RE: Moral Compass - by downbeatplumb - April 6, 2015 at 4:54 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 6, 2015 at 6:58 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Simon Moon - April 4, 2015 at 9:41 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 4, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Mister Agenda - April 3, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Simon Moon - April 3, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: Moral Compass - by downbeatplumb - April 4, 2015 at 6:44 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Chad32 - April 4, 2015 at 8:28 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Chad32 - April 4, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Little Rik - April 5, 2015 at 3:58 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Silver - April 5, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Moral Compass - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Chad32 - April 5, 2015 at 8:11 am
RE: Moral Compass - by comet - April 5, 2015 at 8:19 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Lakul - April 5, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Chad32 - April 5, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Polaris - April 5, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by Lakul - April 5, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: Moral Compass - by robvalue - April 6, 2015 at 1:04 am
RE: Moral Compass - by Spooky - April 6, 2015 at 8:28 am

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