(April 2, 2015 at 4:52 pm)robvalue Wrote: Wow!
Now that was a smack down, nice work
Indeed! The idea that "things wouldn't work if stuff was different" does indeed sound like a restriction on an omnipotent God. I hadn't thought of that before. Surely Mr omnimax can make constants to be whatever he wants and still make things work. If not, he's at the mercy of mathematics or something?
And lets face it, how well suited is this universe to human life? It's not. Almost all of it is lethal to us, including much of our own planet.
I'm sick of these arguments which put forward God having to work around arbitrary restrictions (like a human would) when he's simultaneously being heralded as omnipotent. It's both childish and intellectually dishonest. Trying to mix fairy tales with reality does not work.
I always find it amusing when atheists resort to a theological argument against the existence of God or a Creator. This argument goes like this:
If a omnipotent God caused the universe to exist why didn't God create a universe in which humans couldn't possibly exist except by some on going supernatural process? My rebuttal is who knows? I could ask why do architects build structures that are extremely inefficient and should that lead me to believe they were caused by natural forces without plan or intent? If you're going to live by such facts you're doing to die by them also. What natural process caused matter to exist in the first place? Why would lifeless mindless forces without plan, intent or an engineering degree cause a universe with exacting laws of physics that allow something utterly unlike itself to exist i.e. life and mind? The irony is many atheists reject the notion we are the result of the miraculous or supernatural yet there counter claim that the universe, life and mind is the result of mechanistic forces that didn't plan or intend such to occur is at least as miraculous as the explanation they reject. Which would be more miraculous in your mind, that a laptop some how came into existence minus any plan or intent by naturalistic forces or that such came into existence intentionally by beings that designed it?