Failure condition for god

[Iroscato]

Hehe yeah. I'm not surprised to hear that's your experience too.

I'm offering the whole works here, they can talk about how the universe could be entirely different, how Earth could be entirely different. We could be different. Anything at all.

Can they come up with any scenario, any creation, different rules of the universe, anything that isn't automatically numberwang? I mean evidence of God?

What would a non created universe look like in contrast?

The quote system here takes a bit of getting used to...
A non-created universe? You mean from a christian perspective? Since the idea of a creator is so intrinsically linked to the entire concept, probably just God twiddling His divine thumbs in total darkness. Rather like what he was doing before the creation of the cosmos, which he apparantly did out of sheer, infinite boredom.
Seriously, what was he doing for those countless eons before he decided to make all of reality?