(April 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm)datc Wrote: What people are definitely born as is stupid, including "agnostic atheist," as in babies indeed lack the belief that God exists or not, and babies do not live their lives worrying about eternal life or God, and then, as they grow up, they wise up, some more than others.People are born ignorant. That is not the same as stupid. Please educate yourself so you don't look stupid.
(April 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm)datc Wrote:Bullshit answer. Did you read the link I posted? I'd be interested to hear the excuses you make in favor of eternity.(April 9, 2015 at 11:13 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Besides, if the eternal afterlife is so much better than this life, why aren't you in a hurry to get there?
Because the temporal life is important both (a) as an end in itself and (b) as a means of preparation for eternal life. Regarding (b), most of us aren't yet ready for it; to the extent that some saints are, (a) still remains; moreover, end of life for humans comes fast enough not to worry about any delay.
(April 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm)datc Wrote:Humans do not hold some gawd given pinnacle seat no matter what your holy medicine man has been telling you.(April 9, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Jenny A Wrote: And in what way do you think that admitting other animals even approach your own level of intellect and empathy cause a life to be subpar? The need to downgrade others in order to feel better about oneself is the hallmark of a subpar life.
I'm not downgrading animals; I am upgrading humans to where they already are.
(April 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm)datc Wrote:(April 9, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Jenny A Wrote: And why would any effort to make this world or oneself better be negated by an understanding that this world is transient? It is those who neglect this world in favor of a possible afterlife that are dangerously deluded.
Because making yourself or another happy for eternity feels more valuable that for a finite number of years.
Boy, have you got that backwards. The limited number of years we have make every one of them more precious, not less. Helping someone in this world is a far better thing than you would ever be able to do in an eternal existence.
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