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Failure condition for god
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RE: Failure condition for god
April 11, 2015 at 6:33 am
(April 5, 2015 at 1:25 pm)robvalue Wrote: But if there are no failure conditions, then you can show God exists whether he actually does, or not. Hopefully anyone who cares about truth can see the problem with that.
Well, no, not so much.

You're implying that truth requires falsifiability.

Falsifiability is a helpful concept which strengthens a position and IMO is necessary for evidence to count as scientific evidence.

But, it isn't necessary for truth.

One can likewise say that there's no failure condition for atheism. No matter what you observe, you can explain it in some other fashion than god. You know, magic is indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced technology...The Matrix...

Neither theism nor atheism has a failure condition. Yet, between theism (broadly considered) and atheism, it seems that one of them has to be true.
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Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Norman Humann - April 5, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by downbeatplumb - April 7, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Minimalist - April 5, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by AFTT47 - April 5, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by watchamadoodle - April 5, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 5, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Ravenshire - April 7, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Zen Badger - April 11, 2015 at 6:26 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Mudhammam - April 5, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by JuliaL - April 5, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by JuliaL - April 5, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by comet - April 5, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 5, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 5, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Ben Davis - April 7, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by JuliaL - April 5, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 7, 2015 at 7:00 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by watchamadoodle - April 7, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 7, 2015 at 9:47 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by watchamadoodle - April 7, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Spooky - April 7, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by You_remember - April 7, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 7, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by FatAndFaithless - April 7, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 7, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 10, 2015 at 3:42 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Ben Davis - April 10, 2015 at 5:56 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Neo-Scholastic - April 10, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by dyresand - April 10, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 10, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Pizza - April 10, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 2:45 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Pizza - April 11, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 11, 2015 at 5:28 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by Pizza - April 11, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by John V - April 11, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 11, 2015 at 6:38 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by jesus_wept - April 11, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by John V - April 11, 2015 at 7:14 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by jesus_wept - April 11, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 6:44 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 11, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by John V - April 11, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by John V - April 11, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by IATIA - April 11, 2015 at 5:23 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 6:14 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Aroura - April 11, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 8:22 pm
RE: Failure condition for god - by Pizza - April 12, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Failure condition for god - by robvalue - April 12, 2015 at 5:12 am

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