If a Christian met Yahweh, he'd probably say, "This can't be God. There's no need for faith."
You're right. Just believing that there's a god somewhere or once was a god has no practical meaning from a western p.o.v. I could believe that this absentee god put certain laws into motion to help me be a better human being and all I have to do is find them and learn how to harness them, which is basically what eastern religions do.
You're right. Just believing that there's a god somewhere or once was a god has no practical meaning from a western p.o.v. I could believe that this absentee god put certain laws into motion to help me be a better human being and all I have to do is find them and learn how to harness them, which is basically what eastern religions do.
(April 12, 2015 at 5:20 pm)robvalue Wrote: Sure, the problem with most definitions of God is that they are unfalsifiable. They get defined so that they can't get proved wrong, because they quickly would be proved wrong if so. If a Christian met Yahweh for example, they'd have no idea if it was actually him or some powerful alien. The only version of a deity that makes any sense is the deistic one, a creator which started the universe off but has had no influence since then. There is no evidence there ever was such a thing, but it at least doesn't contradict scientific understanding. I've found "God" to be the least well defined thing, possibly ever. I've asked people to define it on here, and even Christians can barely manage to say anything about it which would actually identify it. If you don't actively believe in some sort of creator, then you're an atheist. Sounds like you're ready to me, welcome aboard To me, if some deistic creator exists, or did exist, it makes no difference to anything anyway. So a deist isn't very far from an atheist.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.