RE: JW looking for clarity
April 17, 2015 at 3:25 am
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2015 at 3:26 am by Heywood.)
(April 17, 2015 at 2:57 am)Alex K Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 2:48 am)Heywood Wrote: What is the reason this isn't applicable to the universe as a whole? Is it simply a premise necessary to get the universe started?
No, Heywood, conservation of energy is an observational fact. Within our universe, it *could* even be violated by a new type of as yet undiscovered forces or some such. It's not something that is even defined before there is a universe.
What existed before there was a universe? The same thing that exists now. Reality. Why wouldn't the same rules that apply to reality today also apply to reality before there was a universe? Do we have any reason whatsoever to believe that realities and their sub realities are not self similar?
I'm not familiar with the conservation of energy proves god argument. However if you are basing your refutation of it on speculation that conservation of energy might now always hold....I find that to be a stretch....and a really weak refutation.
