RE: Hello, Agostic theistism?
September 7, 2010 at 11:56 pm
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2010 at 12:02 am by DeistPaladin.)
(September 7, 2010 at 11:21 pm)everythingafter Wrote:(September 7, 2010 at 10:49 pm)Liu Bei mixed with Leondias Wrote: I belive that there is something out there and it is impossible to know for sure. But I also belive in a religion, more as a most logical explanation kind thing. So what am I?(Religion wise)
Do you believe this something out there has the power or inclination to intervene in your life or the life of others? If yes, agnostic theist. If no, agnostic deist, I suppose. There's no way for us to tell what religion you are. Do you believe this deity might be Yahweh from the Hebrew Bible, a hat trick combo set of Jesus/Yahweh/Holy Spirit, Allah or one of the other hundreds of gods man has invented for himself.
My take on deism is actually that we don't know the mind or nature of God, including to what extent God is involved in developments. It's not "God has abandoned the universe" but "I see no reason to believe in a personal God." much the same way atheism isn't "there is no god" but "I see no reason to believe in any god or gods."
Theism is believing not only in a personal god but that we do know the mind of God, including what it wants and what it hates.
I know that's not what the dictionary says but remember that the same dictionary often defines atheism as a "denial of God". The dictionaries seem to be written from a theist perspective.
My advice to Leondias is to pick up a copy of "Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine and see if that clicks.
Just to add if anyone was curious:
What I mean by my identity as an "agnostic deist" is that I do have my doubts. Sort of my way of saying "I could be wrong".
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist