(April 24, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Something important is to not underestimate... Really, sometimes I bump into some really ignorant religious people, but you may be surprised when someone who knows a lot about philosophy and science genuinely thinks a god exists and creates a more complex version of the cosmological argument that is not easy to debunk at first glance.
I try to keep personal insults out of debate with theists because I think it only creates antagonism between both groups. Generally spotting fallacies is not hard. When the theist is religious it is an easier task because you can simply ask the person why she/he doesn't believe in thor, zeus or hades instead. But when the theist is a liberal one, or a deist, or a pantheist, it is a bit more complicated and some arguments are unpredictable - Not to mention that as hard as it is to admit some atheist arguments do contain fallacies, though not enough to discredit atheism.
Ugggggg I really do not know how many times I can say no one is advocating either politeness all the time or cussing all the time. IT DEPENDS.
I'm not talking about every religious person. I am talking about humans in general setting up taboos to avoid getting their egos bruised. I am also talking about the well intended left who thinks protecting multiculturalism involves coddling the insecurities of the zealots and bigots.
IT DEPENDS on who, where what and context of situation.
I think anyone who is more concerned with getting offended than they are with actual real oppressive laws and real violence done in the name of religion, they need to get their priorities in order. Only an idiot would think getting offended is worse than being murdered because you offended someone.
IT DEPENDS on the context of who I am talking to, where I am doing it, and the situation I am involved in in that moment.
