(May 2, 2015 at 7:51 pm)Lek Wrote:(May 2, 2015 at 4:23 pm)Jenny A Wrote: What in the Bible? The impossible creation stories (both of them). The parts where god orders the Hebrews to commit genocide. God's decision to kill a bunch of Egyptian babies. The phrophets telling everyone that famine, and invasion are because they didn't pray to the right god? How about the parts where it describes historically impossible events like the census the year Jesus was born? Or where Joshua tells all about the conquering of the promised land with god's divine help and then in the next few books it's conquered all over non-miraculously? Is is it the rules about killing women for being raped and absurd dietary laws. The utter incoherence of Revelations? The forged letters of Paul? The parts were Jesus says the kingdom of god on earth would be ruled by all twelve of the disciples (including Judas)? The way each new Gospel gets more and more hostel to the Jews?
If you're saying that the bible doesn't paint God as a one-dimensional cream puff, then you're correct. God is loving, but he also is just, jealous, angry and wrathful. He is also the creator and knows what's best as applies to the big picture. He is omniscient and understands the best course of action for those he created better than we do. By the way, what is incoherent about the Book of Revelation?
No, the bible certainly does not paint god as a cream puff, more like a sadistic, homicidal, maniac. And when he miraculously gave whole peoples into the Hebrew's hands he ordered genocide, not just allowed it, but required it. And the reason? Well they happened to be sitting on the land he wanted to give the Hebrews. It's ugly. Very ugly. And "he knows what's best," doesn't even begin to explain it.
Quote:He has also given every person he created the option to be happy for eternity. Obviously, in order to experience eternity joyfully, we first need to experience a baptism by fire because we are all touched by a world tainted by sin.
Doesn't seem the least bit obvious to me. Nor does the "option" seem fair or reasonable. Believe in me against all reason and live forever. Use the brain I made for you and die in a pit of fire. It's more like Russian Roulette than an option.
And who is supposed have created us and this "tainted" world? Oh yeah, this god guy.
Quote:By the way, what is incoherent about the Book of Revelation?
Everything but the grammar which is why every other Christian thinks it means something different.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
