RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
May 10, 2015 at 4:42 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2015 at 5:08 am by robvalue.)
It's not surprising that angels are almost always in humanoid form, because they are most likely a human abstract construct and not anything real. Just like "God" is really just a super-human in most stories (with plenty of human emotions) even though theists wouldn't like to admit to that now I imagine.
Or to put it scientifically, there has never been any (credible, objective) evidence they are real. Further, there's never been any evidence that anything paranormal/supernatural exists.
I don't know if that helps you, but those are the facts, as far as I'm aware. All we have are anecdotes and speculation.
I'm not trying to say that you don't have what you consider good evidence for you to believe. All I'm saying is that anecdotes are not considered hard, objective evidence because of all the reasons we've been talking about. We would have to take everyone's word for everything, without being able to verify anything at all. I hope you can see that isn't practical. We must have ways of determining which things are supported claims, and which are not. Sadly, it may be the case that something really is true (such as your angel) but that there is no evidence for anyone else to study. If that's the case, those incidents are victims of the system, but the system really does have to be this way. However, if something is real and does interact with us, we would expect some sort of evidence to emerge at some point in the future. It is always reasonable to assume it is more likely that such things are the mind playing tricks.
Or to put it scientifically, there has never been any (credible, objective) evidence they are real. Further, there's never been any evidence that anything paranormal/supernatural exists.
I don't know if that helps you, but those are the facts, as far as I'm aware. All we have are anecdotes and speculation.
I'm not trying to say that you don't have what you consider good evidence for you to believe. All I'm saying is that anecdotes are not considered hard, objective evidence because of all the reasons we've been talking about. We would have to take everyone's word for everything, without being able to verify anything at all. I hope you can see that isn't practical. We must have ways of determining which things are supported claims, and which are not. Sadly, it may be the case that something really is true (such as your angel) but that there is no evidence for anyone else to study. If that's the case, those incidents are victims of the system, but the system really does have to be this way. However, if something is real and does interact with us, we would expect some sort of evidence to emerge at some point in the future. It is always reasonable to assume it is more likely that such things are the mind playing tricks.
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