RE: Dealing with Death as an Atheist
May 11, 2015 at 3:44 pm
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2015 at 4:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
quantum mechanics
-not required to come to the conclusion that the earth is not flat.
physics,
-again, not a requirement
they knew no details about the brain
-....not required.
or much of anything else.
-......sounds like you're describing us as of today at this point..lol.
They also were clueless regarding the finer points of logic and reason because most of them had virtually no formal education.
-not required.
That doesn't make them stupid, it does make them ignorant, which is defined as the lack of facts on particular subjects. We're all ignorant of things today that our ancestors will learn. Today, we know these things and anyone with an interest and Google can find out all they need to know. There are people who believe things because they want to believe them, because they are reacting emotionally and not intellectually.
-which was why, by and large, they believed them then, despite every observation to the contrary...but, as you noted, not everyone swallowed that pill. In all honesty, I doubt that many people, over the course of human history, have had much of an opinion on the shape of the earth -at all-.
Depending on where you look, flat earth beliefs were either commonplace or uncommon. The ancient Greeks knew that the Earth was spherical. Places like the Middle East had no clue.
[color=#333333]-"not round" does not mean flat, nor does not knowing that the earth is round mean that a group thought it was flat....you will have a very difficult time finding stories about flat earths......but of course, the middle east and ANE are the origin for quite a bit of the flat business (even though they themselves didn't actually think it was flat...later people interpreted it thusly and then enforced that interpretation, popular stories of the region liken the cosmos and the earth as a part of it to a hammered disk above.....and irregular croppy pillars beneath, or to separated halves of a sphere - as above so below, there are some good models, on the webs, as regards the cosmo models of the ANE.......they didn;t think that the earth was flat.......though, granted, they had no means of determining the truth to the exacting specificity of today..lol. It only takes a large lake (or ocean) and an eye to realize that you are looking at a "non-flat" surface.)
I'm not disagreeing so much, with the main thrust of your point, that today, it's not as easy "not to know" as it was then...just /w regards to the shape of the earth, "flat" has always been the idiots answer, that we think that -they- thought the world was flat has more to do with some idiots in the interim than it does with anything they actually believed.
-not required to come to the conclusion that the earth is not flat.
physics,
-again, not a requirement
they knew no details about the brain
-....not required.
or much of anything else.
-......sounds like you're describing us as of today at this point..lol.
They also were clueless regarding the finer points of logic and reason because most of them had virtually no formal education.
-not required.
That doesn't make them stupid, it does make them ignorant, which is defined as the lack of facts on particular subjects. We're all ignorant of things today that our ancestors will learn. Today, we know these things and anyone with an interest and Google can find out all they need to know. There are people who believe things because they want to believe them, because they are reacting emotionally and not intellectually.
-which was why, by and large, they believed them then, despite every observation to the contrary...but, as you noted, not everyone swallowed that pill. In all honesty, I doubt that many people, over the course of human history, have had much of an opinion on the shape of the earth -at all-.
Depending on where you look, flat earth beliefs were either commonplace or uncommon. The ancient Greeks knew that the Earth was spherical. Places like the Middle East had no clue.
[color=#333333]-"not round" does not mean flat, nor does not knowing that the earth is round mean that a group thought it was flat....you will have a very difficult time finding stories about flat earths......but of course, the middle east and ANE are the origin for quite a bit of the flat business (even though they themselves didn't actually think it was flat...later people interpreted it thusly and then enforced that interpretation, popular stories of the region liken the cosmos and the earth as a part of it to a hammered disk above.....and irregular croppy pillars beneath, or to separated halves of a sphere - as above so below, there are some good models, on the webs, as regards the cosmo models of the ANE.......they didn;t think that the earth was flat.......though, granted, they had no means of determining the truth to the exacting specificity of today..lol. It only takes a large lake (or ocean) and an eye to realize that you are looking at a "non-flat" surface.)
I'm not disagreeing so much, with the main thrust of your point, that today, it's not as easy "not to know" as it was then...just /w regards to the shape of the earth, "flat" has always been the idiots answer, that we think that -they- thought the world was flat has more to do with some idiots in the interim than it does with anything they actually believed.
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