RE: Religion is a Delusion/Mental Illness
May 12, 2015 at 1:25 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2015 at 1:30 pm by snookerman.)
(May 12, 2015 at 11:06 am)whateverist Wrote: I've never met a purely physical, deterministic universe. The one I live in is out to get me. Really, it is all about me. Your appearance here is obviously an attempt by the universe to amuse me. Check mate.
sure, but I can't take credit for that... it would've happened anyways, or was the result of random particles...
(May 12, 2015 at 11:09 am)robvalue Wrote: Hello snooker man, welcome
Indeed, if we take the view things are deterministic (which is fairly reasonable I think, but not conclusive) then indeed, no one is making any "choice" beyond quantum randomness. But here we are, talking shit and thinking we're thinking about stuff, just in case.
We need another name for the version of Pascal's Wager with free will. Err... Hawkin's Wager. I try to act as if I do have free will, just in case I have. If I haven't, then I'm just doing what I was going to do anyway so haven't lost anything.
good idea! though, I don't think we're assuming a purely physical universe at that point... imo...