(September 15, 2010 at 7:53 pm)solja247 Wrote: Exactly my point! most Christians dont even know how to read their Bible, they just assume it has to be taken litteral...
We agree!
Quote:I dont think atheism is wrong, I dont think its right either. I dont have any solid evidence to say you are right/wrong. Although, I will argue that the evidence is in favour of the theist...
And what evidence would this be?
Quote:Funny enough, Creationists think evolution is just a big conspiracy theory...
I've seen where some Christians think dinosaur bones are planted by scientists! The conspiracy that would have to be undertaken for this to be true would be mind boggling.
Quote:Religion and God go hand in hand, unless you are a Deist, its the same thing.
My point is that "God" does not oppress people, kill people, force dubious "morals" on people, or dictate how people should live their lives. It is RELIGIONS that do these things. Therefore, to me, the world would be a much better place without it.
Quote:It's "unrealistic" to ask for tangible, observable evidence? It's "unrealistic" to ask for empirical evidence that demonstrates Jesus actually lived? It's "unrealistic" to ask for evidence that supports Biblical tales like the story of Noah's Ark?
Quote:No. Some Atheists ask God to reveal Himself or some sought of evidence which is ridiculous.
Why is this "ridiculous"? Hasn't this deity supposedly revealed himself in the past? Then why is it "ridiculous" to ask him to do so now?
Quote:What? Atheists "persecute" believers? Where? On the other hand, finding examples of believers persecuting atheists is pretty easy.
Quote:I could start with Communist Russia (Well a few decades ago) Thankfully, not many countries hold to atheist ideaologies anymore...
You read the question wrong. I said complain about persecution...
The old Soviet Union was definitely an atheist state. But the leadership was only concerned with holding onto power and persecuting its enemies (real or imagined). Atheism did not inspire the leadership to persecute anyone. It was simply tyranny. I must point out that European monarchs persecuted people who were the "wrong religion" for centuries. Thankfully, not many countries hold to theocratic dogma anymore....
Quote:Absolutely true of creationists. For the most part, atheists merely try to demonstrate how the beliefs of creationists are contradicted by observable evidence. If you think trying to get people to acknowledge the discoveries of science is "seeing the light", then I suppose you're correct.
Quote:Science doesnt = Atheism.
I didn't say that it did. I was specifically talking about that segment of believers who shut their eyes to scientific discovery when it contradicts their holy book.
Quote:Most Atheists are missionaries at heart...
Most atheists couldn't care less what other people think about the existence of a deity or how to worship it. Just like most believers don't care whether or not another person thinks their deity is real.
Quote:The difference is that the beliefs of creationists are deluded and irrational. The beliefs of atheists are supported by mountains of evidence and a few centuries of scientific research.
Quote:Mountains of evidence?
I was referring to Evolutionary Theory here. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?