Tiberius Wrote:No it isn't. Logic is well defined. Particular statements are either illogical (i.e. they follow logically) or they are not. There isn't any room for interpretation or opinion. It may well be true that some people choose to act irrationally and insist that they are correct despite the flaws in their reasoning. When people have deeply held beliefs, revealing those beliefs as illogical isn't usually taken wellIm sure there are instances where interpretation and opinion matter a great deal, it would depend on the topic at hand.
Quote:Your assumption, like the rest of your argument, is baseless. I have a great interest in changing your mind.
Why do you want me to walk away from my faith?
Quote:If you want an example of a fallacy you make, it would be this one: "to have just one life permitting universe, you need 1 to 10^500 attempts to get it done"Im simply stating what is commonly believed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory_landscape
Ignoring the fact that you do not explain the origin of these numbers, or even how you know that to create a life-permitting universe, you need that many attempts (give that we don't even know if there was an initial "attempt"). Ignoring all that, you are arguing from large numbers, and hoping that we ignore the small numbers. What are the small numbers? Well, you give the start of the range as 1. 1 attempt. What you want us to think is that "gosh, we really might need 10^500 attempts at a universe being created that can sustain life?!?", and from there we think, that is highly improbable; it can't have happened. What you don't want us to think is "wait a minute, he's admitted to the universe maybe only needing 1 attempt to sustain life...that works out fine".
Your use of large numbers is a classic statistical trick that I see a lot. You want us to think that 10^500 is so improbable, it can't happen, but you do not give us any context into which we can put that amount. Your forget the key thing here; even if you have a very low probability of something happening, as long as the probability isn't 0, it can happen on the first go.
Quote:By all means, try to convince us, but if people don't want to, or outright refuse to debate you, it doesn't mean that you automatically win. An opponent's refusal or inability to debate proves nothing about your argumentI agree, but if a person isnt going to present facts then why should they post a response at all to a thread like this? Its like "I can prove you wrong but I just dont want to. So na na nuh na na."
