(May 18, 2015 at 11:01 am)Rhythm Wrote:(May 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm)snookerman Wrote: with a purely physical universe, the people coming to your door are a product of deterministic processes (or the random motion of particles)... as is your decision!
Minor corrections, in a purely deterministic universe......."this that and the other"(TTO™) are the product of deterministic processes. The universe being purely physical is not a statement that guarantees this (nor "random" TTO)...and, ironically, in a "not purely physical" universe......... TTO could just as easily be deterministic or random. There's really no sensible distinction between a physical and a physical+ universe, with regards to deterministic or random TTO.
So...no, the universe being purely physical does not lead to those people or your decisions being the result of deterministic processes. To make that claim...you'll need a great deal more than just a physical universe.
everything I've heard about the physical world leads me to think of the motion of particles as deterministic or random... are there some other qualities?
so yes, I think a purely physical universe must be deterministic or random... I agree that a "physical+" universe may be deterministic or random...
so the difference I see is "must be" or "may be"
