(September 22, 2010 at 1:58 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:(September 22, 2010 at 1:15 am)radames Wrote: There were many jesuses in that day. However I don't think that many claimed that they were a deity.
There are many people who claim to be a deity/jesus/messiah now in modern times. A lot of them have been found in compounds in the American west with a few pregnant underage girls and several damaged women or some other horrible situation.
It makes you really wonder about some of the messiahs from modern faiths (though Mohammad seemed fairly open about his particular depravities.)
Though I suppose in regard to christianity, if the actual Jesus were someone like that, then I have to hand it to christianity to really have their beliefs transcend the man, however, I'm certain that isn't the case (though I can't say anything with any certainty because there's no evidence that the man existed at all, but that's neither here nor there) but this applies to many historical figures as well.
Here is wikipedias list of messiah claimants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Messiah_claimants
Simon son of Joseph (c. 4 BCE) a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled. The messiah of Gabriel's Revelation.
Athronges (c. 4-2? BCE), leader of a rebellion with his four brothers against Archelaus and the Romans after proclaiming himself the Messiah[1]. He and his brothers were eventually defeated.
Jesus of Nazareth (ca. 4 BC - AD 30), in Galilee and the Roman province of Judea. Jews who believed him to be the Messiah were the first Christians. It is estimated that there are between 1.5 and 2 billion Christians in the world today[2], making Jesus of Nazareth the most widely followed Messiah claimant.
Menahem ben Judah partook in a revolt against Agrippa II in Judea
Simon bar Kokhba (died c. 135), defeated in the Bar Kokhba revolt
Moses of Crete (5th century)
Isḥaḳ ben Ya'ḳub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani of Ispahan lived in Persia during the reign of the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan (684-705).
Yudghan, lived and taught in Persia in the early eighth century. He was a disciple of Isḥaḳ ben Ya'ḳub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani of Ispahan.
Serene (Sherini, Sheria, Serenus, Zonoria, Saüra) (c. 720)
David Alroy or Alrui (c. 1160)
Abraham Abulafia (b. 1240)
Nissim ben Abraham (c. 1295) active in Avila.
Moses Botarel of Cisneros (c. 1413)
Asher Kay (1502) a German near Venice.
David Reubeni (early sixteenth century).
Solomon Molcho (early sixteenth century).
Sabbatai Zevi (alternative spellings: Shabbetai, Sabbetai, Shabbesai; Zvi, Tzvi) (1626-1676)
Barukhia Russo (Osman Baba), successor of Sabbatai Zevi.
Miguel (Abraham) Cardoso (b. 1630)
Mordecai Mokiakh ("the Rebuker") of Eisenstadt (active 1678-1683)
Jacob Querido (d. 1690), said to be the reincarnation of Shabbetai Zevi.
Löbele Prossnitz (Joseph ben Jacob), early eighteenth century
Jacob Joseph Frank (1726-1791), founder of the Frankist movement.
Shukr Kuhayl I, 19th-century Yemenite pseudo-messiah
Judah ben Shalom (Shukr Kuhayl II), 19th-century Yemenite pseudo-messiah
Menachem Mendel Schneerson; a 20th century Rebbe and charismatic leader who is believed to be the Messiah by mainstream orthodox Chabad-Lubavitch Chasidic Judaism
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.