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Just read this and tell me what you think.
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RE: Just read this and tell me what you think.
(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: It is extremely difficult for me express my thoughts into writing but I will try my best.

hi and welcome Hi

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: Right, atheists believe there is no life after death, no supernatural being or world and so on.

Imma stop you right there-atheists don't believe in god. that's it. no extra functions included

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: Their belief is based on the laws of Physics.

atheists don't have a belief, but disbelief. we don't believe god exists. period.
and we don't necessarily base our disbelief on physics, definitely not just on physics. it comes mainly from critical thinking and examining the claims made by religion

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: All Information we receive is through our five senses, which is then processed in our brains, which also affects our understanding and thinking.
So we know that our brain is responsible for the way we perceive this world we live in.

no argument there

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: With certain substances (for example DMT) our minds can be 'altered' where we now live in a completely new world. This new world does not obey the laws of physics. We meet and interact with other beings. The time we spend in this new world is as life like as any.

that's not exactly true, we stay in the same physical reality which continues to follow the laws of physics, we just are influenced to think otherwise

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: My thought is, how can we be so sure this new world is only an illusion and not real? The information we receive in this new world is still being processed by our brains, just as though it is right this moment whilst you are reading this post. The brain is the same, the only difference is the way your process the information you receive.
The time we spend in this new world with an 'altered' mind although relatively short; still exists as you have seen and have been in this place.
If you were living in this new world with the 'altered' mind for longer than a few hours, say few years, would you not believe this new world as your only world?

we cannot be sure this world isn't an illusion and the only thing the existence of which we can be cetain of is ourselves

and as I mentioned, substances that alter our mind don't take us to other worlds....they just make us think they do

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: How do you know right this moment whilst you are reading this post your mind is not 'altered' from a time before you were born on this planet?

I don't

(June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am)rary Wrote: The brain naturally produces DMT, at three points, a large amount when you are born and when you die, and a small quantity whilst you are dreaming.
This adds to my point, if you were to take DMT right now, you will be transported to a whole new world, the way you perceive information is now completely different to what has been since you have lived. So.. when you are born DMT can be seen in the brain in large quantities.. and when you die DMT can be seen in the brain in large quantities. Can you see the link?

I can see the link you're attempting to make, but like I said above..... yes, drugs cause hallucinations. no, hallucinations are not real events.

don't do drugs kids....you might find yourself on the philosophy subforum Big Grin
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Just read this and tell me what you think. - by rary - June 3, 2015 at 9:02 am
RE: Just read this and tell me what you think. - by Longhorn - June 3, 2015 at 9:15 am

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