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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses

June 6, 2015 at 10:40 am (This post was last modified: June 6, 2015 at 10:41 am by JuliaL.)

(June 4, 2015 at 2:20 pm)nicanica123 Wrote:

Sorry, I should have clarified. I just wanted context before I answered... So those scriptures that you mentioned. They are a series of scriptures that are making me doubt. Not the truth about god but rather, if the scriptures do not have divine backing then clearly its impossible for there to be singularity in the teachings. That being said, in the book of Revelation, there are obvious scriptures that are being applied to Jesus that call him the first and the last. And there is a scripture that is clearly applied to Jehovah that also uses the same moniker, "first and last." So is this like the term, "greatest of all time"? I could refer to Jack Nicklaus as the greatest of all time in golf and Muhamed Ali as the greatest of all time in boxing. No one would say that they are the same person or that the term "GOAT" has the same application. So is the first and last phrase required to mean the same application? I don't think so. So is this like a Muhammad Ali and cacious clay type of thing? Same person but different names? Maybe, but when I read the New Testament as a whole,

Jesus own words imply that God is separate from him and a greater being than he is.

So the few scriptures that seem to imply that they are the same should be taken with the entire context of the entire NT.

Sorry for the delayed response. Remind me if I missed a specific point you raised

(June 6, 2015 at 9:11 am)Randy Carson Wrote:

When we are referring to Jack Nicklaus and Mohammed Ali, we are referring to people who are known for their acheivement in their respective sports. Michael Jordan played what sport? (he played baseball, too). Bo Jackson was a famous ______ player (football or baseball? He was both.).

Now, there are how many gods? One.

So, in the context of sacred scripture, when the text refers to God and Jesus as the "First as the Last" and that the "First and the Last" died, we can know that the text is equating Jesus with God.

WOOT!

It's a proof by assertion fight backed up by custom interpretation of alleged holy writ!
GAME ON!
Popcorn

So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh

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