(June 6, 2015 at 1:06 am)robvalue Wrote: Nic: Did you really just ignore my attempts to help you with your issue? Or are you giving it some thought? I tried to use a discussion that was going a bit sour to make a valid point about beliefs to try and help. But instead you're still focusing on trying to undermine Becca. I thought you wanted some help?
Plus, you still haven't addressed how knocking on someone's door is waiting for them to come to you. It's the exact opposite as far as I can see!
I don't even understand the point about waiting for them to come to me? Did I mention something like that? I would never claim that they're coming to me.
Here is why I didn't respond to the whole point overall... becca can claim what she wants. But maybe this could be a post on your website. When someone makes a claim, what is their incentive of being 100% accurate in making that claim? If we dissected her claim we can figure that 2 things are more than likely true. JW's came to her home and they pissed her off. So, now you have me and Tonus (who has no soft hearted feelings towards JWs) saying that we have never gone out that early before. I have asked other JW's and no one has ever gone out that early before. Is it possible true? Yes, it is. But in my opinion, its more than likely fabricated or simply misremembered.
So what is the incentive for Becca to make sure to be 100% accurate? She is pissed off and they have ruined "entire days". The vast majority of the people on this board don't like JW's, or at least there door knocking. And its been more than proven that people misremember events in their life almost instantly. Sometimes fabricating the memory in a way that is more fantastical than the original. So it is 100% possible that she remembers the experience how she describes, and I am not calling her a liar because I don't think that she is purposely trying to smear the truth, I just think she is probably wrong. But she has no real incentive to back up her claim. I could claim that I am competing in the next olympics and its not exactly an unreal claim but it could be, and is probably false. (hint. its false) Or my experience with my brother that many have claimed is a lie. I can actually back that claim up but I would choose not too for mine and his privacy.
So then I get to your juxtaposing it to christianity... I am on this board looking for clarity in those beliefs! But since we're on the subject. If Becca started a movement and had many eyewitnesses to her claim and there were many writings attesting to it. I would further investigate the matter. The NT does have multiple claims from multiple sources. And for 2000 years there has been a movement based on it. I am going to investigate the matter. I have told you before that my faith is weaning on the emotional side. I still can make logical sense of many things. But I just don't feel like god exists. So what I am doing is investigating the claims from a non emotional state. If it was simply a claim of waking someone up at 8am then I would have brushed it off a long time ago