(June 9, 2015 at 10:57 am)Cato Wrote:(June 9, 2015 at 9:41 am)nicanica123 Wrote: No we don't believe in predetermination. The JW's have commented for many years that homosexuals could have been born they way they are. But that it isn't a proper rationalization to ok it. Its compared to someone having a propensity to alcoholism. Or really even a guy or girl lusting after someone of the opposite sex that isn't theirs. JW's don't believe that the world condition is the way god purposed
This is disgusting and wrong on so many levels that I'm having trouble trying to decide where to start.
Even if someone has the propensity for alcoholism, one does not become an alcoholic without drinking. The same cannot be said for homosexuality. Homosexuals can never have gay sex and remain homosexuals. Also, you could take it in the ass everyday for a year and not become homosexual. If you drink your entire paycheck for a year, assuming you can keep your job, you will undoubtedly be diagnosed as an alcoholic.
The problem with alcohol is immoderate consumption to the point that it causes harm to yourself or others. Immoderate consumption is perhaps considered sinful, but the activity itself is not. Gay sex on the other hand is considered sinful, even if engaged in just once.
Face it, you blindly accept an OT prohibition and will say anything in order to legitimize it and the consequent bigoted discrimination.
Well the claim is not that homosexuality is a choice but rather the choice is acting against the way god created us. Please remember that I am not defending this. But a christian can defend these claims with the scriptures. When Paul speaks of those that will not inherit gods kingdom, he mentions drunkards along side homosexuals, fornicators, idolators, etc. He doesn't say one sin is better or worse than another. And JW's are not bigots by training. Although some are, this is a personal level. The training about homosexuality is that they deserve the exact same dignity and respect as any human. But a practicing homosexual would be treated the same as a practicing fornicator or drunkard. If they weren't baptized then they wouldn't be allowed to get baptized and if they were then they could be disfellowshipped. IF someone is gay then they can't be a witness, but why the hell would they want to be?
