Stump the Christian?

[Longhorn]

You're not  surprising anybody.

Nor did I expect to. I will take a look at the threads. I spent HOURS reading all the Tim O'Neill threads, and I was impressed with how he addressed the issues of the historicity of Jesus. (Quite a few folks got shellacked by a fellow atheist on that issue.)

If the proponents of the Kalam argument did as well as Tim, then I look forward to reading their posts.

Thanks.

Great. The posters that had argued in those threads have a much better understanding of the topic than I do, hopefully you'll see just how bad Kalam is....and even more hopefully you won't use it in the future