(June 15, 2015 at 7:20 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: So you're in the godly fiat camp: things are good a cuz god sez so.
For which follows: things could just as easily have been otherwise. Hardly a rock-solid foundation then is it? "Just because I said so" seems a bit weak around the ethical gills.
And if your god establishes morality, for all time and all people, why was he a-ok with a Moses slaughtering little children in Numbers way back when? Doesn't sound like it was "established" at all.
JHC, I don't uderstand what you mean in your first 2 sentences, but like I said... I just want to know what your views are regarding my question. Your views, independent from mine. No reason to attack my beliefs, just tell me yours!

(As for your last sentence, I do feel the need to clear something up. That story is in the OT. I cannot speak for Jews, because I am not one, but as Christians we believe that there were deep flaws in humanity's perception of God before Jesus came and showed us how God is *really* like. Which is a big part of the reason why he came. And he had some harsh words for people who harmed children. I believe that the OT was mostly compromised of parables... not real, literal history.)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh