(June 15, 2015 at 7:36 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:Quote: The question I have for atheists is how do we know what IS good?
The question I have for catholics is, what is good?
Is teaching your kids that they will burn in hell if they don’t accept jesus good? Is stoning homosexuals to death good? Is slavery good?
Quote: So if murder is wrong, where did this law come from? If this is a universal truth, where did this truth come from and who/what determined it to be what it is?
Not the bible, that’s for sure.
Human beings determine what is good and bad, and it’s subjective, and changes over time.
To answer your questions:
1. We believe that God's laws establish moral/immoral, since we believe that He is the master of the universe.
2. No. None of those things are moral per Catholic teaching.
Well, it depends on which parts of the bible you are referring too. Christianity defines itself by the New Testament. The gospels, and the teachings of Christ. From that, you will most definitely see that the things you listed above are contrary to Christian teaching.
Like I told JHC. I am not hear to preach or to try to convince anyone to believe the same as I believe. I want to know and discuss your views.
Do you have any answers for me in regards to my original post?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh