(June 16, 2015 at 12:31 am)Rhythm Wrote: Right, that's what it means, and that's what it is. You and I -alone- would demonstrate the truth of this statement.
Some things are moral or they aren't - to you-. This is the nature of ones personal opinions and in no way contradictory to the notion of subjective morality. You should not be surprised to find that others have different opinions...they are different people with a different framework and different experiences. If morality were an animal (like a dog, in your example) than perhaps this line of reasoning would yield a description closer to truth, but since it isn't...it won't. Or maybe it does, and morality is furry or not furry like dogs are furry or not furry? If you want morality to be some real thing, rather than a thought, you;ll need to find some morality that is a real thing, not a thought...and you'll need to explain why everytime we look at an example of morality it turns out to be a "not real thing" (I guess is the alternative?)...a thought. No one has ever plucked any morality out of the air, it doesn't grow on trees.
Agree to disagree about morality being subjective.
And I have talked to Atheists who do not believe morality is subjective, so I guess it just depends on the person.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh