RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 16, 2015 at 2:38 am
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2015 at 2:40 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 16, 2015 at 2:12 am)Rhythm Wrote:(June 16, 2015 at 2:06 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well, I don't believe "their god" exists. So naturally, I don't believe in the commands of their god to kill people, etc. And of course, you can apply the same doubts to mine. That's all this is, really. Just having our own beliefs and not believing everything else.-and in a way, that is all that subjective morality is. So, now that you understand what subjective morality is, and how it is -not- what you thought it was (that everything is "right")....can you see why there isn't much trouble for an atheist here?
You clearly -do- apply those same doubts to your own god. When god kills the firstborn you think "no, no, god wouldn't do that, that's allegory" - you are not satisfied with the word of god...you've used your own moral sense.
I do the same thing.
I understand what subjective morality is. I just don't believe that morality itself is subjective.
As for the OT stuff about, it's not my own moral sense. It's what my religion teaches, and it's what Jesus Himself taught.
(June 16, 2015 at 2:14 am)Kitan Wrote: Nope, she doesn't get it.
I'm sorry.
(June 16, 2015 at 2:18 am)Rhythm Wrote:Quote:But I don't believe God ever commanded this. This is OT stuff and I have explained how I feel about the OT and how some of these descriptions of God completely contradict Jesus, who I believe is God Himself, made flesh.That's your "moral filter" in action. I have one too. It's why I'm not a catholic. I applied that filter to the faiths primary fetish.
It is what Christianity teaches.
(June 16, 2015 at 2:18 am)Rhythm Wrote:Quote:But I don't believe God ever commanded this. This is OT stuff and I have explained how I feel about the OT and how some of these descriptions of God completely contradict Jesus, who I believe is God Himself, made flesh.That's your "moral filter" in action. I have one too. It's why I'm not a catholic. I applied that filter to the faiths primary fetish.
It is what Christianity teaches.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
