RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 16, 2015 at 12:01 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2015 at 12:03 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 16, 2015 at 10:48 am)abaris Wrote:(June 16, 2015 at 10:41 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: The big "gotcha" is when theists accept your moral system as a moral system, but then they pull out the trump card and ask "without an objective source of morality how can you claim your moral system is better than any other society's moral system, it's all just opinion."
And then go out, speaking about universal truths and murder being wrong, while supporting capital punishment.
Not adressing Lady here, since I don't know her stance, but we get that often enough.
I am 100% against capital punishment!
(June 16, 2015 at 11:12 am)Rhythm Wrote:(June 16, 2015 at 7:18 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Therefore, ISTM that we have to examine WHY God might have instructed the Israelites to take certain actions at one point in OT history, only to command something different later in the NT.
But in order to discuss that intelligently, we have to agree on some examples of that behavior. To what are you referring when you say that God acted immorally in the past?
Sounds like a conversation you should have with your fellow follower of Cathol? She says it was all allegory.
Catholics are free to read the OT allegorically, or literally. If Randy believes it is literal, he is not going against Catholic faith.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
