(June 16, 2015 at 12:05 pm)robvalue Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, whatever reason you may have for ignoring all the horrible shit in the bible, that's good with me. I want to live in a world with nice people. I much prefer you dismissing the OT as allegory than what we often get which is people making horrible arguments to justify the obvious atrocities therein.
It does raise the question why on earth you would keep the OT around if it's just a bunch of weird torture porn stories that no one should take seriously! I mean... what on earth is it all an allegory for? What could we ever learn from it except "might makes right" over and over again?
I'm just glad you are as horrified by the OT as I am. There are plenty of moral problems in the NT as well, though. For one, Jesus doesn't condemn slavery, in fact he talks about people must obey their masters and such. Not so cool.
Because the OT is not all torture stories. There are many good life lessons in the OT. It just isn't complete.
Jesus has never condoned slavery. You must be taking some things horribly out of context. Everything about the entirety of His teachings points to being against treating people badly and that would include enslaving them.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh