(June 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(June 16, 2015 at 12:15 am)dyresand Wrote: If you wander what is good then look at the middle east and religious laws and how they treat woman and look at the society there in genera.
for one its barbaric compared to the first world and if you want a good example of what god would deem good the middle east is a prime example of
what is good to god of the bible.
However it is also a good example that we sense that one society can be better or worse morally in some ways than another. If morality is purely subjective, our opinions aren't sufficient to justify condemning one practice as morally better or worse than another. A totalitarian state that oppresses women is just as good as a democratic state that treats them as equals.
I think even with relativism we don't have to go that far. We don't need an ultimate standard of shortness or length to be justified in saying that a yardstick is longer than a ruler. The second state is objectively better in its treatment of women than the first; and an absolute moral standard is not required to be able to say so.
They could argue that men are superior and that it is thus immoral and disgraceful to treat women as equals. And then who's right? Us for saying women should be treated equally, or them for saying they shouldn't? Do you really believe no one is objectively correct here?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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