RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 16, 2015 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2015 at 12:54 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 16, 2015 at 12:19 pm)robvalue Wrote: My problem is this:
Say you're right and god did do that, he made us moral. I assume all this took literally no effort on his part, being a god and all.
Isn't one thank you enough? Why do you feel the need to thank him over and over every day and make it such a big part of your life? It's an honest question. Are you scared he will take it away from you if you don't? Or do you think he really deserves such relentless praise? Why would he even care, being a god?
I'm interested
I never claimed he made us moral. He made us with free will so we can choose to do the moral or immoral thing.
We do have some instinctive notion of what is right and what is wrong, but we still would greatly benefit from some guidance, even if that guidance just comes from our parents independent from any religion.
Not scared. It's just a good thing to be grateful for what you have and to always remember all the good things in your life. And of course, God wants a relationship with us. We don't "need" to thank Him everyday though. That is not some sort of rule. It's just a good thing to do.
(June 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(June 16, 2015 at 12:33 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hm? The Middle East is mostly Muslim, not Christian/Catholic.
Same God. Muslims also accept the OT and NT, in much the way you accept the OT (flawed, allegorical, etc.). They believe Jesus was born of a virgin and will return on the last day to judge the living and the dead.
Some things we believe are the same, other things are completely different. They do not believe that Jesus is God, and that's pretty much the crux of Christianity. On the other hand, I do not believe Mohammad was a prophet, and that is the crux of Islam.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh