What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Catholic_Lady]

I want to thank you, C_L for keeping a respectful tone, not breaking any rules, and not strawmanning here. You have no idea how refreshing it is, being that we tend to attract a lot of disingenuous assholes.

But now there's this:

Note how I said "between husband and wife" and not "married according to the state."

I believe that marriage is definitive of a woman/man relationship. A gay couple aught to have all the same rights under the law, but it is not a marriage in the Catholic definition of the word, which is what I believe in. Therefore I do not believe it is moral for 2 men or 2 women to engage in sexual activity, even if they are married under state law.

Do you believe it's not moral for Catholics?  Or everyone?  After all, you believe in objective morality...

Hey, thank you so much! I appreciate that. I'm sorry some of us Christians can be so rude sometimes. :/

I believe it is objectively immoral, yes. But culpability changes depending on the person. So for someone of a different faith who has no idea or genuinely believes differently, they probably have very little fault, if any. And honestly, I do believe God shows great mercy for gay folks who act on their attraction, whether catholic or not. It must be extremely difficult to have to live a celibate life and to never get to feel the closeness of a life partner. I'm sure God understands that better than any of us and I think He is very merciful to these people.

When speaking about objective actions, we can say whether and action is moral or immoral in and of itself. But we can never judge the state of another  person's soul.

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Would you agree though that people who are attracted to children "shouldn't act on the impulse that is part of who they are and their human nature?"
If so, then there is nothing intrinsically wrong with thinking it is not always moral to act on impulses. You just don't think it's right in this particular case.

Oh please. This is the usual religious bullshit of comparing homosexuality to paedophilia. Hopefully you do get the difference between consenting adults and intercourse with minors. And it's kind of ironic, considering that all too many catholic priests can't keep it in their pants with children.

Please don't misunderstand. I know the 2 are worlds differently. I just wanted to know if your comment  that it's wrong to say someone "shouldn't act on the impulse that is part of who they are and their human nature" applied to all people, or if it applies just to some people.

Actually, the percentage of Catholic priests who molest children is equal to or slightly less than the percentage of men in general who molest children. The greatest number of people who molest children are teachers. So just know that the molestation of children is not some sort of "Catholic priest thing." People from all faiths and all walks of life can do horrible things, and priests are no different.