What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[rexbeccarox]

I want to thank you, C_L for keeping a respectful tone, not breaking any rules, and not strawmanning here. You have no idea how refreshing it is, being that we tend to attract a lot of disingenuous assholes.

But now there's this:


Do you believe it's not moral for Catholics?  Or everyone?  After all, you believe in objective morality...

Hey, thank you so much! I appreciate that. I'm sorry some of us Christians can be so rude sometimes. :/

No need to apologize for others.

I believe it is objectively immoral, yes.

So, you didn't change your mind on what's objectively moral, even after you realized this:

But culpability changes depending on the person. So for someone of a different faith who has no idea or genuinely believes differently, they probably have very little fault, if any.

What's the point of making it something immoral, then?

And honestly, I do believe God shows great mercy for gay folks who act on their attraction, whether catholic or not.

Why do you believe this?  

It must be extremely difficult to have to live a celibate life and to never get to feel the closeness of a life partner.

But people wouldn't have to live life like that if your ilk didn't tell people it was immoral.  Conflating homosexuality with child molestation is a really bad trick, too.  That is disingenuous, dishonest, and just plain vile.  How moral is that?

I'm sure God understands that better than any of us

Then why would he make it objectively immoral?

and I think He is very merciful to these people.

Again: why do you think that?

When speaking about objective actions, we can say whether and action is moral or immoral in and of itself. But we can never judge the state of another  person's soul.

Why; because you say so?  You're allowed to judge everything but someone's soul?  I don't think that's what it says in the Bible...