(June 17, 2015 at 4:52 am)pocaracas Wrote: Things to take away from this thread:
- Good either comes from a god who keeps changing his mind; or from a society that keeps evolving to better fit everyone in and keep most of them happy.
- Catholic marriage only pertains to man+woman. Catholic marriage is NOT a civil marriage. Civil marriage allows (in some countries) same sex unions and confers them the same rights as man/woman couples. As a corollary in this part of the discussion, it seems obvious that our Catholic_girl was married a virgin to a military guy and, after some time of marriage, is still without children. She also likes cats.
- Priests are human beings. So are school teachers. Some of them like young kids... a lot... a few act on that. Both higher powers in their respective hierarchies have, in the past and present, shoved around the problematic individuals around in an effort to keep the priest/teacher in functions, while keeping the person away from the authorities. These two classes of people, who, in our society, hold a lot of power over our children, have misbehaved, and yet... we need them around... well, believers need priests, everyone needs teachers. How to keep the bad ones at bay in both cases? psych-tests?
- Catholics may choose to look at he OT as metaphorical and a lot of the NT as obvious allegory. What matters for real is the catechism... which takes a few lesson from the bible, but extrapolates a ton of other stuff.
- Atheists can be kind people. Who'd have thought?
I probably missed something... it's not easy to sum up 52 pages of you people hounding the poor girl. And that avatar of hers only made you hound her even more!
Wow, thanks for the recap! You have been paying attention!
Everything here is correct... the only objection I would make is that God does not change lol.
I'd also add that schools and churches are not the only establishments that have people who are bad people. I'd say every establishment has its bad seeds. Of course, any time we are talking about a profession where people are put in a position of power and are made to deal with vulnerable people, there will be the wolves who take advantage of the situation in one way or another. Not saying this is any excuse for either churches or schools, just saying it isn't at all limited to those 2 establishments.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
