RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 17, 2015 at 12:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Wow, thanks for the recap! You have been paying attention!"other people do it too"
Everything here is correct... the only objection I would make is that God does not change lol.
I'd also add that schools and churches are not the only establishments that have people who are bad people. I'd say every establishment has its bad seeds. Of course, any time we are talking about a profession where people are put in a position of power and are made to deal with vulnerable people, there will be the wolves who take advantage of the situation in one way or another. Not saying this is any excuse for either churches or schools, just saying it isn't at all limited to those 2 establishments.
No argument from me...but you have to understand that this is also no argument -from you-. You aren't defending or ameliorating anyone with this, only implicating others when your organization simply cannot be exonerated. That other people do immoral things and abuse their positions is a problem, not salvation or a response to accusations for -your- organization when it does immoral things and abuses it's authority.
And yes...contrary to your protestations..the pope -was- part of the problem. He was complicit. He was informed, he did not act as he should, and he washed his hands - as you are doing now..when you plead with us to stop staring at the peedo ring you call a bastion of morality...and instead look at all of the -other- bad folks. I'm looking at them, and your organization is among them.....what is it I'm supposed to see?
"I know this isn't an excuse guys...but here's my excuse" - this is the same nonsense as before, regarding homosexuality. If you found out that your local school district was sheltering pedophiles (and bluntly, assisting them in their target selection), would you then make "non-excuses" on the grounds that priests do it too.....or would you pull your kids, scream at the top of your lungs, and refuse to support them until that behavior ceased -if ever again-? What does your gut tell you, here?
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