(June 18, 2015 at 2:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote:Quote:I think what matters most is what is in a person's heart.
You mean, the crucifixion of christ, and accepting the crucifixion of christ -isn't- actually required...for me to get into heaven? I don't know...should we check the catechism? You're a catholic, right? I think you're being disingenuous.
No, no..scratch that, I -know- that you are. Disingenuousness was a problem for you, just a few posts back.....maybe it's only a problem, for you, when non-catholics leverage it?
Do you have a position on the moral status of vicarious redemption? How has god helped you to see -why- this is "good", or - on the off chance, -why- this is "bad"?
I also want to add, Rhythm, that this is what Pope Francis, the leader of the Catholic Church said just 1 year ago:
"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there."
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
