(June 19, 2015 at 9:13 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Oh really?yes
Quote:How do you know you found him?In the bible Paul talks about receiving the initial measure of the holy spirit and receiving 'Spiritual fruit' which everyone who has been given even the smallest measure/interactions with God will exhibit. then as we mature spiritually and strengthening our relationship we will receive Spiritual gifts.
I have been given both fruit and gifts. (I can provide the actual verses if you want to read what he has to say or you can just google spiritual fruit and spiritual gifts.
Quote:What about everyone else reading the bible and following the instructions and not finding god?Everyone A/S/K's for God finds a "measure" of Him. what they do with this measure will determine their level of interaction with God. as per the parables of the talents taught by Jesus.
Also one of the reason
Quote:Oh right.....you can just assert they're not doing it rightThat's the thing sport.. None of us 'do it right' that is why Christ died. so we don't have to do it right. we just have to be faithful to what God has given us. This faithfulness also has to include the rains/hardtimes he sends our way. Because the rains help wash away all that keeps us from a closer understanding/relationship with Him.
Quote:What ARE the instructions? What are the steps? How do you know you've found god?They are found in Luke 11 in the parable of the persistent neighbor.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV
The steps:
We Ask. we do this through prayer,
We seek. do this by asking people who know the bible and God to answer our questions about Him/his nature, in places like this forums, in church, or we seek him ourselves by reading the bible. Just any and every avenue to try and to get to know God.
We knock. In the parable Jesus told the neighbor knocked or repeated his request over and over till he got what he was asking and seek to find. Jesus says you being evil know how to give a good gift how much more will the Father give the Holy Spirit who A/S/K for Him?
Being faithful per the parable of the talents to what we have been given is to follow these steps come hell or high water, till we can recognize the fruit of the Spirit in our lives.